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03-25-2012, 10:50 AM   #1
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Good morning guys/gals, My name is Gary and I'm installing a brick patio. I need some help calculating the materials needed. I understand that I'll need gravel, sand and of course the brick. My question for you is; if the patio is to be 256 square feet how much gravel, sand, and how many bricks will be needed? I've obtained some brick from a demolition site to save cost. I do not have the measurements of the brick so assuming the bricks are "standard" size. All help and advice would be greatly appreciated.

 03-25-2012, 11:06 AM #2 Civil Engineer   Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 5,832 Rewards Points: 5,246 This is basically an arithmetic exercise. A "typical" brick is 4 inches wide x 8 inches long x 3 inches deep. Actual size varies with the specific brick. For the hypothetical "typical" brick each brick covers 4x8 = 32 square inches. To convert from square inches to square feet, divide by 144, so each brick covers 0.22 square feet. You need 256 square feet, so that means you need 256/0.22 = 1152 bricks. Actually, you do not need quite this many, because you are not going to butt each brick hard up against the next one, but this is a conservative number. Of course you need to redo the arithmetic based on the actual full size dimensions of your specific brick. You need more brick if the patio is curved because you are not going to get full coverage when you start chipping bricks to make the corner, but this is a pretty good estimating start. How much gravel do you need? Well, when we did our brick walkway, we overexcavated one foot, and backfilled with gravel. If you do the same, you will need 256 cubic feet of gravel. On top of that, you will need at least four inches of sand (1/3 foot), so that would be about 85 cubic feet of sand, which is what you place your brick in. At least, that is what we did, and it worked out very nicely. The walk has been in place for 20 years with no problem. I suggest you purchase a book on building walkways, they are available at any big box store. There are all sorts of tips in there, including layout, materials to use, how to compact the sand and gravel, drainage design, selecting the proper type of brick, weed control etc. Well worth the investment of a few dollars.
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 03-25-2012, 11:19 AM #3 Newbie   Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2 Rewards Points: 10 Daniel, Thanks for the effective and efficient feedback. Not intending to sound like such an idiot here but...how many pounds of sand would that be equivalent to? The patio that you installed; was it loose-laid or did you use mortar? Last edited by itsbroke; 03-25-2012 at 11:22 AM.

 03-25-2012, 11:22 AM #4 DIY Enthusiast     Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,131 Rewards Points: 504 If you have an android smartphone there's an app called the "handyman calculator" it's free and can help you determine your material needs.
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 03-25-2012, 12:49 PM #5 Civil Engineer   Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 5,832 Rewards Points: 5,246 Certainly the calculator previously noted is great. However, if you don't care to use it, sand is typically about 100-120 pounds per cubic foot when dry, and 130 pcf when wet. And for my brick walk, it is loose laid, no mortar, just sand packed between the bricks. A mortared brick walkway is hard to get right, as the bricks tend to move a little and crack the mortar, so we opted for the loose brick approach. And the bricks have not moved in 20 years anyway.
 03-25-2012, 01:29 PM #6 Member   Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 1,343 Rewards Points: 818 1 Ton of material = roughly 100 sq. ft. at 1-2" deep. It's very rough, but gets you close to order something.

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