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Old 09-09-2018, 12:26 PM   #1
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Want to widen kitchen doorway.


The doorway is 30in want to widen to 34in.



So the question is how to make the Header for this?


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Old 09-09-2018, 02:00 PM   #2
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Have you verified whether or not it's a load bearing wall? what is above that wall?
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Old 09-09-2018, 03:28 PM   #3
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The doorway is below the second floor doorway.
The header thats in place now is a 2x3 with looks like a 1x3 in back of it.
The studs are 2x3 as well. Now above the header it looks like just a 1x3.
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Old 09-09-2018, 06:29 PM   #4
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Re: Want to widen kitchen doorway.


Can you post a picture so we can see what your seeing?
None of those sizes sounds right to me.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:04 PM   #5
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Re: Want to widen kitchen doorway.


Yes your dimensions sound odd.

Can you add a location to your profile page?

This will always be displayed to the left of your posts, like mine and the others, and will answer the question " Are you in the U S A with our dimensions, or somewhere where the dimensions are odd to us.

Still need to see what you see, so that we might understand.



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Re: Want to widen kitchen doorway.


Ok so after a closer look this would be more trouble than what it's worth just for 4 extra inches.


The cripples are 2x3's along with the header and studs.




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Re: Want to widen kitchen doorway.


Thank you for the location addition.

The simplest way to make a header for that, is to dismantle each side of the door, add a temporary stud there to support the top plate temporarily, while rebuilding the doorway, with new King studs, and jack studs, cut to accommodate a 2X whatever the dimension is for the height of the space between the top of the door jamb and the top plate.

Then also use 2 -1X the dimension, all screwed and glued in a sandwich to form a header that fits your space, this header is supported by the jack studs framing the doorway.

The header is 1.5 inches + 3/4inches +3/4 inches = 3 inches thick.

Your dimensions are odd to us because the building in Philly, is probably very old, built before dimensions were standardized.

Yes this is a lot of work, but anything worthwhile takes the effort to accomplish it.

Any confusion, don't hesitate to ask.



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Thank you for the location addition.

The simplest way to make a header for that, is to dismantle each side of the door, add a temporary stud there to support the top plate temporarily, while rebuilding the doorway, with new King studs, and jack studs, cut to accommodate a 2X whatever the dimension is for the height of the space between the top of the door jamb and the top plate.

Then also use 2 -1X the dimension, all screwed and glued in a sandwich to form a header that fits your space, this header is supported by the jack studs framing the doorway.

The header is 1.5 inches + 3/4inches +3/4 inches = 3 inches thick.

Your dimensions are odd to us because the building in Philly, is probably very old, built before dimensions were standardized.

Yes this is a lot of work, but anything worthwhile takes the effort to accomplish it.

Any confusion, don't hesitate to ask.



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Ed; 3 inches will take a 2 ply header.


Older doors are 78" anything new will be 80" so you will want to check that and correct the height too.
for a 34" door you want a 36" rough opening and a 39" header.
I would build the header out of 2x6 or 2x8 and measure the height of the door before I decides on a height., some where between 82 and 83 unless it is outswing which is less.
You will have to rip new 2x4 studs down to fit in the 3"
Things take time to settle so if you can do this in one morning I wouldn't worry about holding anything up while you do it.
If you can selvage 2 old studs for the jacks you could get away with 2x3s for the king studs.
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Yes they can use 2 - 1.5 inch as a double header. no problem.


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Re: Want to widen kitchen doorway.


Thank you for your detailed information!


I'll be remodeling my kitchen so I might still widen the door.
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Re: Want to widen kitchen doorway.


I know in older homes there are doorways between kitchens and living areas, are you widen the doorway between the living room and kitchen?

If so, can I ask why not widen it more and not put a door in?
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Thank you for your detailed information!


I'll be remodeling my kitchen so I might still widen the door.
If it is not a load bearing wall you do not need a header.
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Don't know if its load bearing? The floor above the doorway & wall is in the same location.


Yes it's the doorway between the kitchen & dinning room. Use to be a swinging door there. Thought about widen it so I wouldn't have to go threw taking the doors off my fridge.


Hmm now that I wrote that it sounds kinda lazy lol

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A dedicated DIYer will always find things to fix needed or not.
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