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Old 06-25-2017, 03:04 PM   #16
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Can someone tell me how I can be approved to post pics?

I would really like to show ya a pic of how this structure looks and also the current supports underneath. Thank you
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Thank you for responding. I thought I confirmed, but checked my email again to make sure and I couldnt find any email message asking me to confirm. i also didnt see anything in my spam. Can you resend me the link to confirm? or should I try registering again?
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I would sit down with the truss company, I would bet they have seen this movie before.
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I did talk to my truss guy and told him what we were doing, he acted like it was no big deal. We are in an area with lots of mobile homes so maybe he has seen it done before or maybe he didnt care,lol. I told him i was worried about the weight in trying to choose trusses and he said there wasnt much difference in a 4/12 and 6/12, weight wise. He just asked was i putting it on 2x4 walls.
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Most houses are framed with 2x4s and that generally supports the roof [or another floor] well. You also need to know how well what the stud wall is on will support the weight. Generally not a concern with a conventional house but MHs usually have the floor joists cantilevered out from the frame. I don't know if that would be an issue or not.
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yay! Thanks!
ok, so here are some pics of this structure. You can see why the roof needs to be replaced if using as a rental apartment. There is just no way to make it look residential. THe current roof, leaks, is in 3 sections and only 7 ft tall on the 2 sides. The 3rd middle roof, is 8ft tall but supported by posts all down the middle.
We just tore off the underpinning to inspect and look for any damaged or rotten wood on the sill and underneath. I was horrified to discover that the sill is only a 2x3! Even our old mobile home sill was a 2x6! Now im even more worried that its just not strong enough to support new 2x4 walls and trusses, regardless of how much support it has.

Im posting a pic of the structure so you can see the roof and also pics of the current supports, or which there are tons of underneath. They are spaced 5 ft apart all around the perimeter and also in the middle and other places. Lots and lots of columns. But what about that sill?
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A couple thoughts, Lift a little in sections and place a beam from pier to pier around the house. Or Just add beams on top of the walls that would give you more height on the walls two. This isn't as good as you would like to have solid bearing on each side of the windows. which you don't have now.

If you go with the lower beams, go with scissor trusses. Vaulted ceiling for the head room.
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A couple thoughts, Lift a little in sections and place a beam from pier to pier around the house. Or Just add beams on top of the walls that would give you more height on the walls two. This isn't as good as you would like to have solid bearing on each side of the windows. which you don't have now.

If you go with the lower beams, go with scissor trusses. Vaulted ceiling for the head room.
What kind of beams? you mean like a 4x4?
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Normally a beam for something like that would be 2 2x10 nail. They will have a roll over problem.
If you are going under I would think a treated 4 x 6 would be enough with crown up.
Never use a 4x4 as a beam, they will sag.
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So just to make sure i am understanding you:
We could jack up one side of the floor and slide a beam on top of the piers and the sill would rest on that, thereby providing more support for the new 2x4 walls and trusseS?
That seems like a reasonable solution, thanks, i will tell my husband about it and see if he thinks that would be possible to do. The only thing that might make it hard, is adjusting the supports in the middle of the home. They r under the metal transport frame and the way the roof is designed , im wondering if this was a triple wide and transported in 3 pcs.......
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I just realized that what i am calling a "sill", that a book diagram of flooring construction, listed it as the " joist header". Around here, ive just been use to people saying, check to see if the sill is rotted when a window has leaked. But we are referring to the board that is on the end of the floor joists. I had a mobile home that had to be moved once and they refused to move it until i replaced that rotted outer board. They were afraid it would affect the strength of it being able to hold together while transporting. So we did pry out the damaged joist header and replace it with new treated and the mobile home made the journey down the mtn just fine. but that was an2x6 so i was shocked that this one was only a 2x3! However the construction is different somehow. It appears to be sandwiched between sheets of plywood maybe? But its got me to wondering what the floor joists are made out of. I cant see because as i said they are sandwiched between sheets of something. So underneath the floor, its just a solid floor with no visible joists on each side. Now the middle, where the plumbing was, looks different. It may be 2x6 there. I need to crawl under there and take pics of that too ........
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Every MH I've ever worked on had 2x6 floor joists. MHs also don't typically have block piers along the outer edge but under the steel frame. Not sure what you have going on. Is this a single wide trailer with additions?
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So just to make sure i am understanding you:
We could jack up one side of the floor and slide a beam on top of the piers and the sill would rest on that, thereby providing more support for the new 2x4 walls and trusseS?
That seems like a reasonable solution, thanks, i will tell my husband about it and see if he thinks that would be possible to do. The only thing that might make it hard, is adjusting the supports in the middle of the home. They r under the metal transport frame and the way the roof is designed , im wondering if this was a triple wide and transported in 3 pcs.......
Mark made a good point about what you have. You may have one unit with add ons. That can be looked at, not sure how much that changes the plan.

Any way My thinking was to lower the piers to allow for a beam so the height stays the same.
The joist across the end of the joist is usually called the rim or rim joist.
It sits on a sill which usually sits on the foundation of a house.
Sills are also the framing member just above a door and above and below a window.
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