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leenabug 06-12-2017 10:46 PM

Roof Over and Converting a Mobile Church Into a Home
 
Hi, my husband and I have remodeled a single wide trailer, then a 1965 ranch style home. Built a garage and then added on to the home, doubling the square footage. So we are not strangers to remodeling work. However, we have been stumped for a couple of years about what to do with a lot we bought that has a mobile church in it. The previous owner had the flooring replaced so it has a good sturdy plywood floor. The roof is what looks awful. Inside it has a slanted ceiling on each side which steps down from the pointy raised part in the middle to give it a chapel look. The outside is shaped like this too so its impossible to make it look good for converting into a residence.
We finally decided to just order trusses and put them over all of it and then tear the ceiling out from the inside until we could make it look right. However today we found out that we think the walls are 2x2's so I dont think we can put regular trusses on them?.

The floor/foundation is supported with block pillars every 5 ft.

What kind of roof could we put on 2x2 walls? We simply have to tear off the current roof, there is no way to make it look right inside or outside.

The over all structure is 24 x 50. Its basically one big room on the inside with a couple sunday school rooms on one end.

My husband suggested tearing the whole thing down and building a house with 2x4 walls and trusses on the frame since the floor is in good shape. I think this would be a waste of time and money as you would still have a mobile home when you got done but with the expense of almost building a house. It prob would not be mobile either as the frame couldnt be moved with additional weight of basically house construction on it.

Now that ive found out the walls are 2x2, im not really sure if its worth remodeling................

What do you think?
1. any way put a roof on it?
2. Is it worth putting money into something with 2x2 walls?
3. any pros to tearing it down to frame and building it back up with 2x4 walls?

chandler48 06-13-2017 05:01 AM

Re: adding a roof to a mobile church
 
Mobile home roofs are also made of sub sized lumber, but scientifically engineered to withstand loads. If you could post pictures of this, it would help us see what you are seeing.

Removing the existing roof and replacing it will add to the weight, obviously, and could tend to bow the walls out or in. Another option would be to build a free standing "over" roof with soffits and fascia to seal it against the walls. Then you could remodel the interior ceiling any way you wanted, and still be protected from the elements.

joecaption 06-13-2017 06:00 AM

Re: adding a roof to a mobile church
 
Not worth remodeling is my opinion.
Just a few reasons:
Only 1-1/2 of insulation.
Super cheap windows.
Substandard wiring.
A nightmare to try and get financing for and very hard to resell.
Depending on your location building with 2 X 6's instead of 2 X 4's may make more long term since with the energy savings.

leenabug 06-14-2017 09:31 PM

Re: adding a roof to a mobile church
 
well we are all in agreement that its not worth remodeling.
However, my husband has decided to dismantle it and completely rebuild on the frame since the floor is rather new advantech.
I thought maybe it would be better to just give it away and buy a used mobile home to put on the site. ........Oh well at this point I am having to keep my mouth shut as my opinion was not happily received :vs_frown::vs_frown: ...

Ok so I am going to have a ton of questions for the next 4 months. (the amount of time we have to get this done before my son gets married and needs to move in it) I will try to post pics tomorrow.

1st problem to solve:
the current frame is nicely supported on concrete block pillars spaced approx 5 ft apart. These are all along the edge, under the sill, and also in the middle of the floor. Remember its a 24x50 so thats prob 2 mobile home frames under there. My husband plans to build it back with 2x4s and order trusses for the roof. Does it need some type of additional foundation support since it will be trusses and therefore more weight on the walls/edges than what it had in the past?

chandler48 06-15-2017 04:59 AM

Re: adding a roof to a mobile church
 
Testosterone has funny effects. The concrete block pillars are fine for a mobile home. They are usually sat on the ground and will stabilize the home. Often they sink and will require leveling or replacement at times due to soil conditions. They block piers are not ideal as they don't bear on anything but dirt. Proper footings are excavated and poured concrete buttresses that can distribute that weight.

To avoid obvious problems it may be best to bring in a structural engineer to give blessings to the proposed build based on what structure is there. It isn't expensive, but can save you headaches later on if he discovers problems.

jessesandy 06-17-2017 02:01 AM

Re: adding a roof to a mobile church
 
What is the current roof made of ?
Does it the building feel unsafe with the current roof ?
It sounds like you're figuring the new roof will be a lot heavier.
How about adding posts to carry the weight. (Located on the outside of the building.)

leenabug 06-20-2017 01:18 PM

Re: adding a roof to a mobile church
 
hmmm, I dont see any way to upload my pics. I dont have a paperclip icon........? Do I need to get approved to be able to upload pics?

leenabug 06-20-2017 01:31 PM

Re: adding a roof to a mobile church
 
well while I am waiting for someone to help me know how to be allowed to upload pics, I will tell you where we are now.
We have spent a couple days cleaning the lot, thankfully a neighbor had bushhogged the lot recently so it was short enough that we were able to mow with our lawn mower albeit up as high as the mower deck would go.
WE have also been cutting down and clearing away the debris that has grown up around it.
Inside we are clearing out, it has been used as a storage shed for several years so there are truckloads of stuff in there.
My husband and sons tore out the interior sunday school rooms and also the left ceiling.
Somone suggested building new 2x4 interior walls on the inside, up against the 2x2 walls. I think this is actually a reasonable suggestion though I can tell my husband isnt thrilled about it. It would have to be done after we tear the roof off because the current walls are only 7ft tall and we def want 8ft walls.
I also pointed out that this would keep it to where we could focus on the inside this summer during the heat because we could leave the outside as is, until cooler weather in fall. If he tears the current walls down, then new outside OSB or such will have to be put on immediately to protect from the weather, not to mention the added expense.
The current walls are 2x2's spaced 4ft apart with foamboard in between the studs, paneling glued on the inside and typical mobile home metal on the outside.
What do you think of this idea of builidng new 2x4 walls on the inside? If would make it overall 2x6 walls when completed. I dont see how this would hurt anything, though I wonder how we would attach siding once we are ready to do that. We would prob take the metal off the outside but since the studs are 4ft apart...........Not a great base for installing OSB or siding
Suggestions?

mark sr 06-20-2017 02:17 PM

Re: adding a roof to a mobile church
 
If you are going to raise the roof I'd tear out the old walls and erect new at that time [in correct place so your OSB/siding will attach to the new wall] At some point you have to consider is all this work worth it? might be easier to start new.

leenabug 06-20-2017 04:07 PM

Re: adding a roof to a mobile church
 
umm yes, I did suggest that if this building needed to have that much rebuilt that we should just sell for $500 and build a duplex from scratch...........But my suggestion was not well received to say the least. And after 20 yrs of marriage, some fights just arent worth it anymore.

leenabug 06-20-2017 04:31 PM

Re: adding a roof to a mobile church
 
https://www.dropbox.com/pri/get/IMG_...mLbtrm_itgOvJg

until I am approved to upload pics, maybe this link will work?

leenabug 06-21-2017 07:00 PM

Re: adding a roof to a mobile church
 
Can someone tell me how I can be approved to post pics?:vs_worry:

I would really like to show ya a pic of how this structure looks and also the current supports underneath. Thank you

Nik333 06-22-2017 12:12 AM

Re: adding a roof to a mobile church
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leenabug (Post 4356042)
Can someone tell me how I can be approved to post pics?:vs_worry:

I would really like to show ya a pic of how this structure looks and also the current supports underneath. Thank you

Contact the mods. At the bottom of the forum page, there are lists of names, highlighted.

leenabug 06-23-2017 04:57 PM

Re: adding a roof to a mobile church
 
thanks, I sent one of them a message yesterday but no reply yet

jessesandy 06-25-2017 01:40 PM

Re: adding a roof to a mobile church
 
The paper clip didn't show up for me either until I used the "Go Advanced" button.


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