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Old 03-21-2018, 11:13 PM   #1
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Framing issues discovered during kitchen remodel


My house is 90 years old and the problems I discovered after tearing off the lath and plaster donít seem to be affecting the structure - ie: there is no sagging, etc., so I am tempted to let sleeping dogs lie. On the other hand, if there ever was a time to correct these issues, it is now. Looking for input from the experts.

First issue - someone in the past cut a 2Ē notch, up from the bottom of a 2x8 joist, right in the middle of a 12 foot span. Best remedy? (Picture 1)

Second issue (part A) - there is an archway between the kitchen and a small eating area. The span is about 7 feet. The 4x8 beam supporting the span is not bearing correctly on the framing. On one end it bears on a stubby 2x4 that is ultimately supported by double horizontal 2x4 nailed across the stud bay. On the other end it is simply toe nailed to the side of a 2x4 stud. And there is more... (part B) immediately beside the end of the beam, someone haphazardly removed studs to create a recess for a fridge. So there is considerable weight bearing on one 2x4. I think I know what I am going to do but would like to hear from others.
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Old 03-22-2018, 12:16 AM   #2
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The one thing working in your favor is very old, old growth lumber that can take much more abuse than todays lumber.
You could screw a 2x4 about 4 ft long to the joist with the notch.
Almost every header we put in a house is double 2x10 now, look at the headers over you windows.
That said I would still do something with the headers. I would remove the arch curves or cut enough to slide a stud in under the beam. The other one I would leave the two top plates and rip that out and put some kind of header with a stud under both ends
Then have a look below the floor because bearing points like that should have support right to the footing. It might stand like that for another hundred years but it would be a shame not to fix it while you have it open and not much more than an hours work.
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