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Old 04-25-2019, 01:34 PM   #16
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@Nealtw

here is a picture of what I am Trying to do.

plumbing vents, toilet, shower - Yellow

framing - red

pocket door - violet
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Old 04-25-2019, 02:02 PM   #17
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@Nealtw

here is a picture of what I am Trying to do.

plumbing vents, toilet, shower - Yellow

framing - red

pocket door - violet

I would put it on the end with the shower head and you never knock stuff off the shelf with your elbow.
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With The 2x6 wall I'm Sure I could make a Niche and get the valve and the rain shower head etc behind it.

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With The 2x6 wall I'm Sure I could make a Niche and get the valve and the rain shower head etc behind it.
Or go around it.
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Sunday Free time update. @Nealtw You win! Relocate of the niche will happen
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I do not see any blocking for adding hand or grab bars in the future. Bars are seldom in 16" or 32" lengths and the studs are not likely to be where you want a grab bar end connection in any case.

R Value of glass insulation with 2x4 studs is about R-2 and the best way to get more insulating value is to use a 2-part foam instead which provides more than 3x the insulating value and is easily applied to small sections as with bathroom framing.

If you are using a shower with jets and a hand spray it is a good idea to have the plumbing done to create a pressure balancing loop.
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Have you done any Kerdi pans? I'm looking for info on a Kerdi pan and Hardi board walls.
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You could make your own shower pan, drop the sub floor and pack a pre slope pan to the drain's weep holes. Waterproof it with a pan liner liquid waterproofing membrane. Detail the corners first with something like eternabond tape. Heres a visual aid.

Lowered sub floor.


Pre slope pan to drain weep system


Wrap all transitions with crack suppression (eternabond tape, or similar)


Place eternabond tape over weep/drain cut holes for drain flange bolts


Apply liquid waterproofing


Now you're ready to pack your shower pan over it, if you ever have a leak with the shower pan theres a back up (no leaky leaky)

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Repeat all the above steps, slope pan to drain. Detail corners, apply liquid waterproofing.



Install drain, if linear drain pack after pan has a cured a day


Then waterproof entire floor
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Finish walls with hardi backer, or other material, and waterproof that. I installed 30# roofing felt behind my shower walls and layed it over the waterproofing in the corners like a shingle for watershed. Also leave walls about 1/2" above pan so water doesnt wick up.

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Everything slopes to the drain. I have about 1/16" per foot on the bathroom floor and 1/4" per foot in the shower. I also installed a left and right shower screen so I dont really have much water that gets out of the shower area.
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Yes, I removed all drywall materials from the shower surround. Everything is durock in the shower.
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I like the window becoming the shower niche! That'll be real nice!
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This is what I'm planning on doing for the floor in the master bath
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Will you consider to use 1/2" Kerdi board instead of Hardi board for the wall? It's full 2'x4' panel. Light and easy to cut. You just need to apply Kerdi bands at board seams and screws. You will add in additional R-2 of insulation value and will make a shower enclosure more comfortable.

Itís an approved backing for Kerdi band to provide waterproofing at wall and Kerdi pan intersection


This way you would be mixing two systems of waterproofing - RedGuard and Kerdi witch is not tested, warranted or recommended by both manufacturers.

This is what I did for my master bathroom - minus the curb in your case.

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