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Old 10-05-2018, 12:37 PM   #1
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Trouble fitting a pigs-ear handrail


For a neat look in our hall, we're wanting to fit a pigs-ear handrail directly to the brick, rather than mounted to another piece of wood.

The problem is, the wall is made of hollow bricks... kind of like a tile/ceramic material that's easy to crack/smash.

I've fitted a heavy oak shelf into these bricks using some chunky screws (cavity anchor screws didn't work, due to the thickness of the bricks) and a heavy-duty bracket, so the weight is distributed.

I'm worried that seems we don't want to use a bracket for the handrail, it's going to be weak/dangerou in these kind of bricks.

Am I worrying over nothing, or are there any other workarounds I can do that don't involve mounting the handrail to another piece of wood?

Thanks!
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Re: Trouble fitting a pigs-ear handrail


Not knowing how thick the bricks are I am going to guess less than an inch. You can find a stud in the wall at intervals, and using a diamond hole cutter, cut the brick, and insert a wooden circle to fit in the hole, then secure the rail to the wooden circles.
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Re: Trouble fitting a pigs-ear handrail


You can use a composite mesh sleeve for epoxy anchoring.
It is a sleeve that you insert in to the hole drilled in the clay block than epoxy is injected into the port of the sleeve the screen causes the epoxy to spread out on the back side of the block wall a stud is than put in the epoxy when cured it is solid. Check Hilti @ HD
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Re: Trouble fitting a pigs-ear handrail


@BigJim , yes the bricks are less than an inch thick. Do you have a picture of what you mean, as I'm not sure I'm following properly? How would you get the wooden cicrle to stick? Just some adhesive?
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@ClarenceBauer , sorry, stupid question, but what do you mean by a "stud"? A piece of wood, or a stud bolt? Thanks!
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A threaded Stud , All thread Rod.
Even some like a sleeve type anchor or a power stud. ( it has a wedge at the inserted end )
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Re: Trouble fitting a pigs-ear handrail


Sorry, a stud is a 2X4 that the wall is framed with.

I would glue then lag bolt or use 3 1/2-4 inch large thread screws. If using a lag bolt you will need to counter sink the bolt head. When you attach the rail to the round plugs, it will cover the fasteners.
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Sorry, a stud is a 2X4 that the wall is framed with.

I would glue then lag bolt or use 3 1/2-4 inch large thread screws. If using a lag bolt you will need to counter sink the bolt head. When you attach the rail to the round plugs, it will cover the fasteners.
Yes a stud is an upright support in a wall of a building to which sheathing , drywall , etc. are attached.

A stud is a large - headed piece of metal that pierces & projects from a surface.


A power-stud ( trade mark ) anchor is a one piece fully threaded wedge style anchor.

A male horse is referred to as a STUD.
sorry I missed used the word stud.

The poster was asking about having a back up material that appeared to be some kind of clay block/ brick that was easy to crack / smash so using an epoxy would enforce a larger area in that type of material. So I used an example from Power fastener hand book Page # 15 Power - Stud with a wedge.
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Maybe I should have instructed the poster to use a Snake ( trade mark ) for use in concrete? This would be an internal threaded insert 1/4 inch dia. or 3/8 inch. That the poster would insert into the sleeve with epoxy injected.
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Perfect. Thanks for all the info, everyone! I'll give this a try over the weekend
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