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Re: Sanding and paint VS Trex ... for old deck


Many different brands, styles and cost.

This is one of many.

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How about just laying out some drainable mats?
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Timbertech (and I think Trex) allows for 16" spacing unless it is laid diagonally to the joists. Our Timbertech is on 16" and it is fine but there might be different rules for extreme heat/sun regions.
Well, despite my well-founded distaste for following any company's marketing claims, I will yield to more recent experience at 16 O.C. by forum members - but I have yet to walk on one that doesn't bounce at that span (215 lb in case you're curious). Just feels cheap and "spongy" to me. Kinda like the pretend floating plank floors versus REAL wood floor. Personal taste I suppose.

2X6 and 2X8 are pretty cheap compared to callbacks. Maybe OP should find comparable decks to walk on before committing?

As always - thanks to members for publishing guides and advice. Maybe I'm getting old...
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If i do go trex route, i hear after market fiberglass beams or non branded ones are equally good enough.... is it true?

I heard your paying for the brand of "trex" more $....that's all!

If it's true, where to get the cheapest composite that's equally good as trex?

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If i do go trex route, i hear after market fiberglass beams or non branded ones are equally good enough.... is it true?

I heard your paying for the brand of "trex" more $....that's all!

If it's true, where to get the cheapest composite that's equally good as trex?

Thx

That would require some market research on your part, although some pros may drop by. There are a range of products out there including Trex and Timbertech (and both of those have their own internal lines) and both, as far as I know, are capped composite, which have a heavier vinyl wrap around the composite core. Some others have hollow cores, some are smooth while others are textured. Some are reportedly prone to fading.

There's probably a good reason professional installers use the big name brands and it may not be possible to get a 'cheap' brand that is as good as the others in the long run.
There is a poster on here California Decks who is an absolute wizard with composite decking - and I think he uses Trex but I'm not certain - but I don't think he plays on here much anymore.
If you're looking at doing it yourself you also have to factor in the cost of fasteners.
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Someone suggested these on top of wooden decks, will these all weather mats protect the wood all year?

https://www.amazon.com/Reversible-Ma.../dp/B0043063JU
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Someone suggested these on top of wooden decks, will these all weather mats protect the wood all year?

https://www.amazon.com/Reversible-Ma.../dp/B0043063JU

I have seen them but not used them. They might buy you a year or two. They obviously won't reverse any deterioration already in the wood and they won't stop moisture from getting under them.
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Many different brands, styles and cost.

This is one of many.

Just got to watch it!

If this is maintenance free why isn't this famous? Or i just thought about stucco....
Why aren't there stucco decks?
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The aluminum decking looks like a great product but I can't imagine it falls into the affordable category . And I would think you would have to isolate it from the pressure treated joists to eliminate corrosion of the aluminum . I looked into Genova vinyl it is also a great solution but $$$ .
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Hi
I just measured the deck floor only it's 250SF. I was thinking it's not a big job I'd get labor alone for like $1000.
Since I'm not replacing railings etc.

I'll provide the trex, fasteners etc.

Does this quote seem high or medium, labor only?...tia....


The deck repair guy quoted me this:
To remove the existing decking and replace with trex, we’re right about $2300. This without trash haul.
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It looks like you'd be best served with trex and decking nails. Simpsons has better galvanized nails. Don't use screws if you're hiring this guy. They will be sunk too far down and such. Make it damn sure your guy knows that the work will stop if you start seeing hammer dings and such.
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Is it true that trex needs min 16 inch joists beneath or else it'll bend?

In some areas i have like approx 20+ inch width.... do they need additional support beams across?

This is in the old deck area that came with the house i then extended with 16 inch width in between beams.

Also,

For 250sf of deck area
HD guy said:
I need 35 x 16f trex boards that are 5.5" wide...
Is the order qty correct...?

Btw...16 feet is $39.97 (trex enhance)... pricey!

Why can't they price it in square footage is beyond me...i just can't calc length of beans to area.... confusing

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Is it true that trex needs min 16 inch joists beneath or else it'll bend?

In some areas i have like approx 20+ inch width.... do they need additional support beams across?

This is in the old deck area that came with the house i then extended with 16 inch width in between beams.

Also,

For 250sf of deck area
HD guy said:
I need 35 x 16f trex boards that are 5.5" wide...
Is the order qty correct...?

Btw...16 feet is $39.97 (trex enhance)... pricey!

Why can't they price it in square footage is beyond me...i just can't calc length of beans to area.... confusing

As far as I know Trex recommends 16" and it is a term of the warrantee if that concerns you. The boards may very well sag, possibly more of a problem if you are in a really hot or sunny area. A few pieces of 2x is cheaper than having you deck go wavy. I assume they sell by the board because they can be installed in a number of patterns, as well used on stair treads, etc.
Also, I don't know for sure about Trex but some have a board that isn't grooved for use at edge-exposed areas.
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My initial thought was to tear it out and go with Trex or similar product. But after looking at composite decking , seeing the price and looking at online reviews I have changed my tune . In theory the composite deck boards are generally thought of install them and they last forever or for a very long time. But then you read reviews that talk about breaking down due to sun exposure, having to move planters every few weeks so no staining of the composite. Or all the scratches that occur when moving grills or patio furniture, once it is scratched that is a path for moisture to get inside the composite. Then look at the fine print on any composite warranty you quickly realize it is not as great as initially thought to be .

I had 5/4 AZEK on 16" centers. After five years, it developed a nice "wavy" effect. It was stained, dull, and ugly. It also grew mildew, which is probably feeding on the pine tree pollen than covers everything in my neck of the woods, just as fast as real wood. I ripped the whole deck out and am having a patio installed this summer.


My stepson had his deck done with TREX nine years ago. It is now faded and dull. He's looking into refinishing it, but I am very skeptical.



It seems that any time we come up with a new "maintenance-free" product, we become victims of our own laziness. I'm also having problems due to trapped moisture behind the PVC trim on my house. It was supposed to last forever with no maintenance. The trim will never rot, but I'm having to pull it off, aong with some of the siding, to replace rotten OSB behind it. It seems that no matter how carefully you caulk, moisture always finds a way in. Perhaps it's condensation - I don't know - but what a PITA!


I think the bottom line is that if you have a house, you've going to need to invest some time and money in maintenance. There is no free lunch.
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Powerwashed (and deck wash cleaner) Friday night (care less about raising grain, wanted to get oils out). Rented 18" disk sander for $35 on Sat morn. Finished and returned 1 hour later. 1st coat deck stain on Sat afternoon, 2nd coat sun morning. Done 3 years later still looks great.

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