Relcaimed Wood To Build Stair Treads - Carpentry - Page 2 - DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum
Advertisement


Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Carpentry

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Like Tree25Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Old 04-02-2019, 01:20 PM   #16
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: NYC
Posts: 970
Rewards Points: 620
Default

Re: Relcaimed wood to build stair treads


Quote:
Originally Posted by Yodaman;
Your instincts are correct. Why spend your time building something that may ruin your work.


Regarding type of wood. Identifying from end grain will be tough for most. A section planed or possibly smooth sawn along the grain might help.

Does this help?





Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Yodaman likes this.
jaketrades is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-02-2019, 01:32 PM   #17
Member
 
Sealik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Clearwater, B.C., Canada
Posts: 37
Rewards Points: 74
Default

Re: Relcaimed wood to build stair treads


Not sure what was 'indigenous' to that locale 100 years ago...but that looks like Douglas Fir....especially the face
jaketrades likes this.
Sealik is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Sealik For This Useful Post:
jaketrades (04-02-2019)
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-02-2019, 01:52 PM   #18
Member
 
Sealik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Clearwater, B.C., Canada
Posts: 37
Rewards Points: 74
Default

Re: Relcaimed wood to build stair treads


Myself....I would utilize that material. I would cut a dado about 1" back from the nose and install some material to shrink that 5" ish gap underneath the tread. No laminating to increase thickness.......and will actually make the tread stronger....<.... Stiffback.....
All relative to the amount of nails in the material I guess....
jaketrades likes this.
Sealik is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-02-2019, 05:13 PM   #19
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,644
Rewards Points: 1,768
Default

Re: Relcaimed wood to build stair treads


The grains are wrong way, I think, if you want some durability. The last photo, at least, is not quarter sawn. But if your stringer has a metal base, then you don't need a structural tread. As such, you could resaw that lumber into 2x2? in short sections and glue them together. Kind of like cutting board. Easier routing and planing too. This will take time.
Cutting the lumber into 2x2 takes one or two table saw blade, cutting through much of the nails as well. 2.25x2.25 rough pieces then plane and joint. This is not really in house, one room operation.
jaketrades likes this.
carpdad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2019, 05:37 PM   #20
Property Mgt/Maint
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 5,265
Rewards Points: 6,026
Default

Re: Relcaimed wood to build stair treads


It is definitely a soft wood, some type of pine, dug fir is a good guess, but I couldn't be sure.
lenaitch and jaketrades like this.
__________________
[political signature removed]
Yodaman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2019, 06:05 PM   #21
retired framer
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Fraser Valley BC Canada
Posts: 21,900
Rewards Points: 11,684
Default

Re: Relcaimed wood to build stair treads


@jaketrades
You have to be careful how deep you get into an idea.

Was this the stairs system you wanted and you are just looking at a cheaper way to do it.
Considering learning curve waste as well as reject wood and normal cut off waste do you have enough material to do the job.
I have done this kind of work with free alder waste from a company making paint brush blanks to ship to China. The price you see for the finished product isn't totally out of line with the work and the equipment that is involved.
lenaitch, jaketrades and Photobug like this.
__________________
Do not use flat bottom gables with scissor trusses.
Nealtw is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2019, 07:40 AM   #22
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: NYC
Posts: 970
Rewards Points: 620
Default

Re: Relcaimed wood to build stair treads


Quote:
Originally Posted by Nealtw;
@jaketrades
You have to be careful how deep you get into an idea.

Was this the stairs system you wanted and you are just looking at a cheaper way to do it.
Considering learning curve waste as well as reject wood and normal cut off waste do you have enough material to do the job.
I have done this kind of work with free alder waste from a company making paint brush blanks to ship to China. The price you see for the finished product isn't totally out of line with the work and the equipment that is involved.
Good point Neal.

Here is my thinking: I've got to redo this hideous staircases. Aside from cosmetic issues, they are slightly twisted.

When I started looking at possible replacements, the open staircase design with steel stringer looked quite interesting. I was shocked at how much the treads cost.

I do have more than enough of this soft wood for the job.

I am a bit concerned about the hardness of the wood and how durable it will be as a stair tread.

I'm going to demo the walls in a week. I think I'm going to keep the wood. Just not sure I'll be building treads out of them.
jaketrades is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2019, 08:12 AM   #23
retired framer
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Fraser Valley BC Canada
Posts: 21,900
Rewards Points: 11,684
Default

Re: Relcaimed wood to build stair treads


Quote:
Originally Posted by jaketrades View Post
Good point Neal.

Here is my thinking: I've got to redo this hideous staircases. Aside from cosmetic issues, they are slightly twisted.

When I started looking at possible replacements, the open staircase design with steel stringer looked quite interesting. I was shocked at how much the treads cost.

I do have more than enough of this soft wood for the job.

I am a bit concerned about the hardness of the wood and how durable it will be as a stair tread.

I'm going to demo the walls in a week. I think I'm going to keep the wood. Just not sure I'll be building treads out of them.
I have seen a few old houses with pine floors, the condition after 100 years has a lot to do with how they were abused or not.
You can buy ready made pine treads so that is not out of the question.

Your comment about covering it with hard wood. To much instability to take a chance. Laminate 1" plywood to thickness and put hard wood on that.

I think you want to have a closer look at the twisted ones to see if that is salvageable or the cost of just replacing them before you make any decisions.
jaketrades likes this.
__________________
Do not use flat bottom gables with scissor trusses.
Nealtw is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2019, 11:41 AM   #24
Property Mgt/Maint
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 5,265
Rewards Points: 6,026
Default

Re: Relcaimed wood to build stair treads


Yeah if your boards are twisted and bent, you will also need a joiner along with a planer. The planner will not take out bends and cork screws.
jaketrades likes this.
__________________
[political signature removed]
Yodaman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2019, 01:42 PM   #25
Usually Confused
 
lenaitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Central Ontario, Canada
Posts: 4,683
Rewards Points: 1,596
Default

Re: Relcaimed wood to build stair treads


The lumber definitely appears to be a softwood but I highly doubt it would be Douglas Fir. Back when the place was built it would be highly unlikely that they would have hauled construction lumber all the way from the west coast. Most likely it would be native to upstate NY or New England.
Jake - I suppose your decision is whether it is worth it to buy the machinery and spend the time getting comfortable/competent with it (assuming you aren't currently) versus buying new lumber or purpose-made treads. At the end of the day you own a planer and jointer - up to you whether that is a good thing or not.
As an aside, I wonder if there are liability/saleability issues with having a 'buddy welded' staircase frame.
jaketrades likes this.
__________________
_________________________________________
Who Dares Wins
lenaitch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2019, 05:50 AM   #26
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: NYC
Posts: 970
Rewards Points: 620
Default

Re: Relcaimed wood to build stair treads


Quote:
Originally Posted by Nealtw;
Your comment about covering it with hard wood. To much instability to take a chance. Laminate 1" plywood to thickness and put hard wood on that.
When you say laminate 1" plywood to thickness do you mean attach (glue, nail, screw) plywood to the reclaimed wood and then attach hardwood to the plywood?

Would I need to do that for all exposed surfaces?
jaketrades is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2019, 10:16 AM   #27
Member
 
Sealik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Clearwater, B.C., Canada
Posts: 37
Rewards Points: 74
Default

Re: Relcaimed wood to build stair treads


Quote:
Originally Posted by Yodaman View Post
Yeah if your boards are twisted and bent, you will also need a joiner along with a planer. The planner will not take out bends and cork screws.
A table saw and a planer will take out bends and cork screws/twists. Just need a sled for the planer and a straight edge for the saw.
Lots of vids out there showing the procedure....
jaketrades likes this.
Sealik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2019, 10:32 AM   #28
retired framer
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Fraser Valley BC Canada
Posts: 21,900
Rewards Points: 11,684
Default

Re: Relcaimed wood to build stair treads


Quote:
Originally Posted by jaketrades View Post
When you say laminate 1" plywood to thickness do you mean attach (glue, nail, screw) plywood to the reclaimed wood and then attach hardwood to the plywood?

Would I need to do that for all exposed surfaces?
If you were just using the pine for a base wood, it wouldn't compare with what you could do with plywood for a base wood.

glue and screw sheets together then remove screws and cut the plywood to shape. But the cost of wrapping it all in hardwood is still going to be costly and time consuming.
jaketrades likes this.
__________________
Do not use flat bottom gables with scissor trusses.
Nealtw is online now   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
why do i need to paint my house? homie Painting 17 07-04-2015 02:04 PM
My approach for carpeting stair treads: need feedback Onagoth Flooring 3 04-08-2015 12:38 PM
Stair treads & flooring: how to tie them in? lazzlazz Flooring 5 05-18-2013 04:34 PM
What is the correct way to redo stair treads. John/Suz Flooring 5 10-13-2011 08:11 AM
2x12 redwood stair treads cracking in center JimmyRrichards Carpentry 4 08-10-2011 10:29 AM




Top of Page | View New Posts