How do I end this chair rail?

noone · 10-03-2011, 09:38 PM

My first attempt at a chair rail. How do I end this chair rail into window casing and door casing? Do I just end it bluntly and let it die into it? Use a return? How? The window molding on the soon to be installed plantation shutters is going to be about a 1/4 inch thinner than the apron on this chair rail. However, the apron is the same thickness as the door casing. Thanks for any input and example pics!

sixeightten · 10-03-2011, 09:51 PM

You start with the top piece and create a 45 degree miter. Then make the matching piece. You can then make the lower piece set back the same as the painted one in the other pic.

noone · 10-03-2011, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sixeightten

You start with the top piece and create a 45 degree miter. Then make the matching piece. You can then make the lower piece set back the same as the painted one in the other pic.

Is that the ideal/standard way to end it? Do the return like on my second pic? That doesn't look funny to you? Just wondering.....

sixeightten · 10-03-2011, 10:10 PM

It does look a little odd. But with the added piece on top, it makes the chair thicker than the casings. If the casings were thicker, you would have more options. I guess the other option would be to run the lower piece into the casing, and return only the top piece? Do a test run and see which looks better.

noone · 10-03-2011, 10:39 PM

The window casing that comes with the shutters is another 1/4 inch thinner than the door casing. Help. Thanks for any ideas on how to do this right.

iminaquagmire · 10-04-2011, 12:03 AM

Run the chair rail into the casing. Whatever sticks out past the casing is mitered away from that casing.

AGWhitehouse · 10-04-2011, 12:19 AM

http://www.woodwrecker.com/woodworki...ailDetail1.jpg

http://elitecrownmoldings.com/skin1/...sc_closeUp.jpg

http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attac...rail-bevel.jpg

http://www.thisiscarpentry.com/wp-co...9406447737.jpg

Point is...there is no "right" way, try out some options with scrap pieces till you find what you really like...

noone · 10-04-2011, 05:47 PM

I like the woodworker.com end. I like the fact that it overlaps the top piece return on the casing. Looks clean.

Thanks for sharing those examples.

Off to the library to pick up some trim carpentry books!!

wiz561 · 10-14-2011, 02:34 PM

If you get any books, check out Gary Katz. He has some great DVD's, but they are expensive. He has written a few books that give examples of what ends should look like.

If you were to get one DVD, I'd get his first one. I believe he covers and overview of pretty much everything in it.

noone · 10-14-2011, 02:36 PM

I ended up doing returns at the ends and it looks excellent. Pics to come as soon as the floor is installed by me.

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noone Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 559 Rewards Points: 604 View noone's Album	How do I end this chair rail? My first attempt at a chair rail. How do I end this chair rail into window casing and door casing? Do I just end it bluntly and let it die into it? Use a return? How? The window molding on the soon to be installed plantation shutters is going to be about a 1/4 inch thinner than the apron on this chair rail. However, the apron is the same thickness as the door casing. Thanks for any input and example pics! Attached Thumbnails

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AGWhitehouse Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,378 Rewards Points: 500 View AGWhitehouse's Album	http://www.woodwrecker.com/woodworki...ailDetail1.jpg http://elitecrownmoldings.com/skin1/...sc_closeUp.jpg http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attac...rail-bevel.jpg http://www.thisiscarpentry.com/wp-co...9406447737.jpg Point is...there is no "right" way, try out some options with scrap pieces till you find what you really like... __________________ Life's too short...so enjoy it!

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10-03-2011, 09:51 PM	#2
sixeightten Framing Contractor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 1,300 Rewards Points: 72 View sixeightten's Album	You start with the top piece and create a 45 degree miter. Then make the matching piece. You can then make the lower piece set back the same as the painted one in the other pic.

10-03-2011, 10:10 PM	#4
sixeightten Framing Contractor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 1,300 Rewards Points: 72 View sixeightten's Album	It does look a little odd. But with the added piece on top, it makes the chair thicker than the casings. If the casings were thicker, you would have more options. I guess the other option would be to run the lower piece into the casing, and return only the top piece? Do a test run and see which looks better.

10-03-2011, 10:39 PM	#5
noone Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 559 Rewards Points: 604 View noone's Album	The window casing that comes with the shutters is another 1/4 inch thinner than the door casing. Help. Thanks for any ideas on how to do this right.

10-04-2011, 12:03 AM	#6
iminaquagmire Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 422 Rewards Points: 338 View iminaquagmire's Album	Run the chair rail into the casing. Whatever sticks out past the casing is mitered away from that casing.

10-04-2011, 05:47 PM	#8
noone Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 559 Rewards Points: 604 View noone's Album	I like the woodworker.com end. I like the fact that it overlaps the top piece return on the casing. Looks clean. Thanks for sharing those examples. Off to the library to pick up some trim carpentry books!!

10-14-2011, 02:34 PM	#9
wiz561 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 265 Rewards Points: 196 View wiz561's Album	If you get any books, check out Gary Katz. He has some great DVD's, but they are expensive. He has written a few books that give examples of what ends should look like. If you were to get one DVD, I'd get his first one. I believe he covers and overview of pretty much everything in it.

10-14-2011, 02:36 PM	#10
noone Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 559 Rewards Points: 604 View noone's Album	I ended up doing returns at the ends and it looks excellent. Pics to come as soon as the floor is installed by me.

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