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Old 08-01-2020, 08:17 AM   #31
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I haven't had any contact with the contractor for the last several days. They want $$ for labor, but turns out in the ~3 weeks they worked, only 4 days of that work was something that will not have to be redone. So, we haven't paid any more labor on the job. Still no invoice from them and I'm not sure how to proceed to make sure they have paid for all the materials that were purchased. any advice there? I'll post some more pics.

First two show pouring the footers. No footer across the front in the first pic where a wall was eventually built. No footer from back of wall to side of house in second.

Pic 3 shows how the line is off. These two walls were going to support the main beam under the deck, with the beam resting on the end of the wall. It's off by about 8-10 inches.

Pic 4 shows standing water in a low spot in the floor they poured.

Pic 5 and 6 show footers I dug up. 24 inches is 3/4 of the way past the block. I dug up 1/2 under the block and didn't hit footer. Just clay.
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Old 08-01-2020, 09:02 AM   #32
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well, that is far more involved than i thought, so i will step back.. but i do ask, why all that for a deck ?
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We can see the drain pipe where did they put that and I don't see any water proofing?
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There's some significant grade/elevation (not sure the correct term) differences in the yard and the deck is going to span nearly 24 feet over the driveway (a drive under basement). There was an old wooden retaining wall that was deteriorating on the right hand side, and the old concrete patio we removed had a brick retaining wall on the other side. So we needed those. The block room was to be under the deck to use for their dog at night (to get him out of the basement). The only waterproofing they did was on the outside wall of the "room" retaining wall. Nothing on the inside if that's required.

The PVC pipe connects the downspout and runs behind and to the side of the retaining wall. It was to be connected to the French drain (also running behind the wall) and be buried underground and run away from the house and down to a lower area of the yard. We need to figure out a temporary solution to keep the mud from spilling onto the driveway while we find a new contractor.

WE ARE EXHAUSTED. I spent hours researching flashing and didn't begin to research block retaining walls. I'm exhausted from this process of having to research and learn all this stuff we trusted them to know and do correctly. Have since learned that the scope/price of this job exceeds their "C" contractor license, so that's probably why they didn't pull a permit. Just a little added stress: My daughter's baby is due in 10 days. So much for having all these great projects completed for her to enjoy before baby arrives!
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There's some significant grade/elevation (not sure the correct term) differences in the yard and the deck is going to span nearly 24 feet over the driveway (a drive under basement). There was an old wooden retaining wall that was deteriorating on the right hand side, and the old concrete patio we removed had a brick retaining wall on the other side. So we needed those. The block room was to be under the deck to use for their dog at night (to get him out of the basement). The only waterproofing they did was on the outside wall of the "room" retaining wall. Nothing on the inside if that's required.

The PVC pipe connects the downspout and runs behind and to the side of the retaining wall. It was to be connected to the French drain (also running behind the wall) and be buried underground and run away from the house and down to a lower area of the yard. We need to figure out a temporary solution to keep the mud from spilling onto the driveway while we find a new contractor.

WE ARE EXHAUSTED. I spent hours researching flashing and didn't begin to research block retaining walls. I'm exhausted from this process of having to research and learn all this stuff we trusted them to know and do correctly. Have since learned that the scope/price of this job exceeds their "C" contractor license, so that's probably why they didn't pull a permit. Just a little added stress: My daughter's baby is due in 10 days. So much for having all these great projects completed for her to enjoy before baby arrives!
The perimeter french drain should be down beside the footing, not just somewhere behind the wall and the down spout should have had a separate solid pipe so it doesn't just feed water to the bottom of the wall.

Water proofing or more often just damp proofing is black and should be visible just above ground level.

Did the inspector say to rip this out or can you bring it to code.

What is the frost depth where you are?
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WE ARE EXHAUSTED
just a suggestion, it may or may not be possible.

do you trust the building inspector ? if so, ask him personally and "off the record" if he will "watch your back " and offer advice going forward, for some $$$ under the table.
not a bribe, but a payment for services.
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Yes, the PVC connects to the downspout and runs above the French drain, which is at the bottom of the wall (gravel under it - at least at the back it is). But it doesn't matter since everything is coming out anyway. Inspector just said the footers don't meet code. Not sure how we could address that at this point -- they are missing completely under two walls and not centered on them in others. Plus there are two walls we can't see at all. Code here says 18 deep, 24 wide, but we don't know since they've already put the block over it. Honestly, as much as I hate to waste the materials, time, $$, etc. I would prefer to start over with a contractor we can trust. This is a forever home for my daughter and SIL (buying the property from us this year) so we want it to last.

And for future, we'll have a permit and regular interim inspections, so hopefully we won't get to this terrible point again. I really appreciate everyone's input. This forum has been so helpful during this process.
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