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Old 12-18-2019, 07:48 PM   #1
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Anti-Virus?


Now that I have said good bye to Century-Link and their God Awful DSL service, they have paid me back by kicking me off their free Norton 360 Anti-Virus software.

So, for the first time in several years, I am going to have to get my own anti-virus software. Or am I?

In the early days of PC and the internet, I would get by with the free stuff until the hackers got really sneaky then I had to get some paid stuff. I got McAfee for awhile until I realized that it was almost acting like ransomware. Never again John, never again. I don't want you coming after me with a machete again!!

My brother worked for Symantec, and even before that, I had met Peter Norton. Talk about an interesting mind! Skewed, but interesting..

Now, I am wondering, what should I go with? Should I stick with Norton? Go with AVG? Just stick with MS and Anti-Malwarebytes? or something else?

I just have two PC's to worry about. 2 Android tablets and 2 android smart phones. Thank God I got my wife to stop drinking that damn Kool-Aid so no more Apple stuff. (Still love my iPod and Shuffle though. Now Steve was doing some damn good thinking with those products.

So, what's the deelio with anti-virulio now adays? Inquiring minds want to know? (Still getting used to my new meds. Trintellix instead of Wellbutrin an Lexapro. WHEEEE)
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Best free Antivirus Software: Avast
Best paid Antivirus Software: Eset NOD32

You pick.
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Both Norton and McAfee embed things on your computer and try to take over certain aspects of it. Just try to uninstall either. They never completely uninstall. You have to go through your computer and pick out all the little bits a pieces they leave behind. ++ on
Avast. Couple that with Malwarebytes and it is good protection. I found out, however, Malwarebytes really is a hog .
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Kaspersky.

Nobody knows more about malware than the Russians.
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Avast is very invasive now, lots of ads...
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Old 12-19-2019, 12:42 PM   #6
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When I get a new computer. The first thing I do is delete, delete, delete. I go to install/remove programs and remove as much bloatware as I possibly can. Same for tablets and smart phones.

I know that it keeps the price down, allegedly, but still, REALLY? I don't need candy strippers 3 installed on my lap top.

Um, I mean candy stripers. Candy Strippers was something else. III was ok, 1 and 2 were better....

I know if I want to keep things clean and tidy and with as little stuff as possible, I should build my own. But, can I build a laptop? Or should I find a laptop and just wipe it and do a fresh install?

And, I am running windows defender for now. With all of it's stuff turned on.

Trying to get rid of Norton and all of his glory before I add something else.
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We leave our computer management up to our son-in-law who is a network manager. He used to have it on Eset but moved us over the Bitdefender. No real comment on which is better but everything runs fine and no indication Vlad or Xi have found us - yet.
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I just un-installed AVG (free version.) It was really starting to impact performance. And I was getting tired of all the pop-ups trying to trick me into installing some paid "feature" I didn't want anyway.

It dawned on me that I've only ever once had a virus, and that was many, many years ago on a server open to the internet. Even then, I discovered and cleaned it before it had been reported in the press or recognized by the anti-virus software.

I stay updated, don't click any e-mail links, and generally don't do anything stupid to bring a virus in. Sure, there are zero-day vulnerabilities out there in the wild, but I've never run into one. I'm wondering if it's worth the system resources to even run one of these programs. All I need is a scanner I could use to manually check questionable files, and which didn't auto-run and constantly intercept everything I do.
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Pls read this:
https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-744.pdf
Discussion about this topic between Leo LaPorte & Steve Gibson
Page 12 thru page 16, Security Now podcast script from Dec 10 2019
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I was listening to Leo LaPorte's radio show just this last Sunday and a caller asked the same question and Leo said if you have Windows 10 then no anti-virus is needed.

Win 10 has the best of the best built in and updates it on it's own as needed.

Win 10 is all you need for an anti-virus LaPort said.
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Pls read this:
https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-744.pdf
Discussion about this topic between Leo LaPorte & Steve Gibson
Page 12 thru page 16, Security Now podcast script from Dec 10 2019
I believe someone said something about clicking on a link from someone that you didn't know or that was unsolicited....

Just sayin....

I am trying Kaspersky Security Connection free for a month. After just a few hours, I can pretty much tell that I will not be buying it.

The free version may be an option. If there is one. Or the least paid version that will cover my PC's/Laptops.

Do I need A/V on my Android Tablets and Phones and Chromebooks?

Or have I drunk too much kool aid like in the early days of Apple Juice when people said that Mac never got viruses?
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I agree that it might not be needed any more. This is anecdotal, but am using Win10 and have never had a virus despite daily use of streaming websites that many associate with being susceptible to viruses. However I do not download pirated media, don't mine for bitcoin, don't allow pop-up windows, and don't open e-mail links from untrusted originator. I suspect those are the more likely ways of getting viruses and malware these days.
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...despite daily use of streaming websites that many associate with being susceptible to viruses...
Do you really want us to speculate what types of sites those may be?
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Old 12-20-2019, 08:33 AM   #14
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Anything wrong with using Defender or whatever comes with Windoze?
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I was listening to Leo LaPorte's radio show just this last Sunday and a caller asked the same question and Leo said if you have Windows 10 then no anti-virus is needed.

Win 10 has the best of the best built in and updates it on it's own as needed.

Win 10 is all you need for an anti-virus LaPort said.
Maybe the win10 defender is good but it is really slowing the pc (worse if you have a standard hdd) as it scans any file when you try to starts any program, i remember when i had an old hdd, it was taking 1 min for some program to start with defender and about 10 sec if disabled
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