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Old 08-31-2017, 09:33 AM   #1
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Does it matter where the valves are on a welding gas torch?


I'm looking at 2 acetylene/ oxygen welding setups right now:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=ATVPDKIKX0DER

On the light duty model, the torch valves are in the front, and on the more heavy duty model, they are in the back. Is there anything I need to consider with this?

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Old 08-31-2017, 10:29 AM   #2
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Re: Does it matter where the valves are on a welding gas torch?


It would matter to me where the Oxy/acetylene valves are because I wouldn't want them close to the Oxy cutting valve lever.

Looking at the pics of the 2 options I couldn't determine for sure where that would put them in relation before my eyes crossed. I did notice one set had only 1 welding tip and the other had 2 tips.

I personally would keep shopping for Victor or Smith, the two proven brands of weldors.

Example: This set on e-bay has 3 welding tip choices and a tip cleaner. Plus you may have a dealer close by to confer with when/if necessary. Amazon I doubt is very handy in that respect.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gas-Welding-...26.m2548.l4275
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Re: Does it matter where the valves are on a welding gas torch?


The bottles on those two units are small - what do you intend to use the torch for? I'd want a bigger set up so it doesn't run out of gas so fast. I have the Victor FirePower [gauges, etc] that I bought 30 or so yrs ago, works great and was only marginally more expensive than the off brands.
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Re: Does it matter where the valves are on a welding gas torch?


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I have the Victor FirePower [gauges, etc] that I bought 30 or so yrs ago, works great and was only marginally more expensive than the off brands.
You can take most any number from 30 years ago X 10 even for Chinese crap today.
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Re: Does it matter where the valves are on a welding gas torch?


Big torches / tips with small tanks can be unsafe. Maximum draw off of acetylene is 1/7 tank volume per hour.

I've got older Victor torch with Harris gauges running on a aw acetylene tank (mine). Older Harris torches are ok too.

Buying new, have you considered an oxy-propane set-up? Propane does not get as hot, can be filled at more locations and is cheaper.
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Re: Does it matter where the valves are on a welding gas torch?


Ayuh,.... Of All the torch sets I've used over the years, I've never seen a valve set up like in the 1st link,....
Don't look comfortable, nor handy,...

I too, have a set of Victor torches I bought 35 years ago, that still live in the back of my pickup, ready to go,...

The 2nd link appears to be a chinese knock off of the smaller Victor torches,....

Buyin' a set of Victor torches usually pays off, they work Great, 'n if ya ever sell 'em,...
They're worth more, 'cause they're Victor torches,...

'n Those small tanks are pretty useless for any more torch work than lightin' a cigarette,...

A 1 year lease on full size tanks is worth the money,....
I think mine are a 125, 'n an 85 for the gas,...
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Interesting replies. I'm looking for a small setup to install an HVAC system (and maybe another down the road) and thought I could use it later for heating bolts and maybe cutting. 20/10 tanks sizes are perfect for me. I found that there are 2 styles being sold mostly: Victor and Uniweld. Most items are usually knockoffs though. That Ebay link is supposed to be "Victor style" but a reviewer says it isn't (or maybe he thought it was an actual Victor unit, which it is clearly not at that price). The Amazon links I posted (Ameriflame) are made by Uniweld and use their threading pattern.

I think I'm going to take the advice about not using large torches with small tanks and just get this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...oop_bw_c_x_1_w

I want easy returns in case the regulators are defective, or bad threading.
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One thing you may consider: We have two (2) local welding supply/gas bottle refill shops around here. Neither of the two will fill or swap out those size tanks unless you have a current business license. An employee told me some years ago that they had stopped selling/swapping/refilling those size tanks due to the high liability of them. Just a thought.
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Easily stolen and that can be a problem if proper credentials aren't supplied on refills.
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