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Old 10-13-2018, 07:22 PM   #1
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New family room rough framed, what's next?


Stripped our old family room in our front to back split level down to the studs so I could rewire/insulate/damp proof as well as adding a corner gas fireplace and set up audio video.
Looking for advice for a decent system.
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Budget? What equipment, if any, do you currently have? Do you prefer a front projector or flat panel display? Are you planning on adding a multi-channel sound system? Now is the time to do all of the prep work for a proper home theater if you want to do it right.
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He may get more responses over at the AVS Forum.
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Over here, Folks may suggest a "Bose system".

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He may get more responses over at the AVS Forum.
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Over here, Folks may suggest a "Bose system".

lol.

You may be right but I'd steer him in the right direction. I've been a member of AVSForum since 2003.
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You may be right but I'd steer him in the right direction. I've been a member of AVSForum since 2003.
LOL, same here, been with AVS since May 2003.
You can get some great Ideas from over there, but they all end up being very costly.
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Budget? What equipment, if any, do you currently have? Do you prefer a front projector or flat panel display? Are you planning on adding a multi-channel sound system? Now is the time to do all of the prep work for a proper home theater if you want to do it right.

I'm not looking for an elaborate Home Theater, but want some decent sound to go along with a good flat screen TV that will be mounted above a gas fireplace in the corner of a rectangle room.
The equipment I have is not worth using and will buy new , looking for advice on speaker placement, brands etc.
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Well, in a new Home Theater Dolby Atmos is a must have, so I'll take a look at this Site for Speaker placement:

https://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/do...-4-setups.html

My Room is only 18x18 so I installed all InWall Speakers by Klipsch.
(11 of them)
Then used two Subwoofers by Dayton, a 12 Inch and a 15 Inch (The Titanic). Inwall Speakers also have a good WAF.
(Wife approval Factor), lol.
My Take on installing a TV over a Fireplace is, well...don't do it. The TV may not like the Heat.I'd also hate to keep my Head up for a long period of time, lol.

If I were in the Market for a TV today, it would have:

1. OLED (very expensive, but it looks like it's here to stay)
2. 4K (obviously.)
3. Dolby Vision (Hard to find but sooo worth it)
4. HDR10+ (must have)

Make sure the TV has all those option.
The OLED's have a absolutely Jaw-dropping picture.

Blu-Ray player should be a UHD Player, no question. They also up-convert regular Blu-Rays.
Surround Receivers are plenty available, make sure it supports 4K passthrough, all of them offer this now but only a few are available with Dolby Atmos. Some Marantz, Denon or Yamaha come to mind. Stay clear of the Pioneers, I was a big Pioneer Fan for almost 30 years, but they disappointed me more than once. Besides, the new Pioneers now are owned by Onkyo. I own a Surround Pre pro, which means I have seperate Amps for the Speakers. Very powerful, very expensive.

Don't skimp on the Speaker Cables. Go to Partsexpress.com to find some good Deals, Amazon has great Cables too.
Only buy 4K certified HDMI Cables.

If you rip Blu-Rays on a server like me, you may want to consider the Dune 4K Pro. NVidia Shield does some of that streaming too. 2K and 4K.

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Deja-vue has many good points. Everything in his post is solid advice.

My take is a bit different. As with everything audio / video, it's all about personal preference.

My main system consists of a 1080p BenQ W1070 front projector with a 96" diagonal pull down screen. The audio consists of a pair of Definitive Technology BP2002 powered towers (each contain a 12" subwoofer and a 250 watt amplifier), a CLR2002 center channel, a pair of BP2X surrounds, and a PF15TL powered sub with a built in 325 watt amplifier. I auditioned these speakers against a slew of other brands over the course of a week and always came back to them due to their sound. The speakers are powered by a Denon AVR3300 which I bought at the same time as the speakers. I've had this audio system since the spring of 2000 and they still impress me to this day. I always recommend that anyone looking to buy a sound system NOT take recommendations from others, but actually go and listen to different speaker systems for themselves. The type of sound I prefer may not be the same as you. As Deja-vue mentioned, Dolby Atmos is the way to go, which requires height speakers in addition to the normal 5.1 configuration. If the funds are tight, you can start off with a normal 5.1 system and add to it later. I need to upgrade to Atmos myself one of these days.

As far as display devices, the TV's that Deja-Vue mentioned would all be great, and I also totally agree that mounting it above a fireplace is not a good idea. The display should be in line of sight when you're in your seating position. You don't want to be cranking your neck upwards looking above the fireplace for any length of time, plus the potential heat from the fireplace is not good for electronics.

Personally I prefer a huge image in a darkened room. A front projector immerses you in the movie like no other display. Sure, you'll get a sharper, crisper picture with one of the new OLED's but size does matter in home theater. Here's a 4K front projector that isn't too expensive.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077PP4S93...v_ov_lig_dp_it

My first front projector was a 720p Panasonic PT-AE500 and the cable guy who came by to set up the cable box for it said that it was the best picture he ever saw, I think mainly due to the sheer size and clarity of a high definition NFL game which happened to be on at the time.

Since your walls are exposed, I would recommend burying a PVC pipe in the walls so you can change the cabling in the future without too much trouble.

Attached is an old picture of my setup with the Panasonic projector.
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And I urge Folks to look at Dave Sal's Picture:
When you sit down in that Chair, your Eye-level should be about the Center of the screen.
And that Picture shows it just right.

I challenge anyone to watch the Lord of the Rings extended Version (3 hours+) on a TV that is hanging above a Fireplace.
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Hm, I should not be talking about Fireplace TV's. I got one myself, lol.
In my "Fireplace-Room" just above the "retired" Fireplace. I have now Candles in there, no longer used to burn Wood.
You may see a piece of Glass (very heavy) in front of the Fireplace.

And the TV is only used for "Casual" TV watching, not entire movies.
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Hm, I should not be talking about Fireplace TV's. I got one myself, lol.

Sorry, but I couldn't resist.
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Good catch. They are as follows:

DVD player remote
cable box remote
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front projector remote
universal remote that was supposed to get rid of all of the above
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He may get more responses over at the AVS Forum.
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Over here, Folks may suggest a "Bose system".

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Great place if you want to take advice from people that really have no idea...
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Great place if you want to take advice from people that really have no idea...
Of course this is a public Forum, and I expect useless, nonsense, non-topic posts from various folks spending too much time on their Mom's computer.
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