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Old 10-04-2019, 06:21 PM   #16
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Re: Would you buy a "renewed" router or a new router?


I am always leery of refurbished equipment, especially electronics.
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Old 10-05-2019, 03:55 PM   #17
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I talked to the ISP further. They do do offer routers for rent. That way, they can dial in to the router and make any changes needed to optimize the system. Once every thing is hunky dory, I can get my own router and put that in place.

Assuming I can log into their router and copy all the settings they have modified.
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Old 10-08-2019, 03:05 PM   #18
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Re: Would you buy a "renewed" router or a new router?


I do not know who your ISP is but I would be leery of a router supplied by them.

Comcast has tricked tens of thousands of subscribers into “upgrading” their modem/routers. What they are not making clear is that this “upgrade” is more to Comcast’s benefit than the customer.

Comcast has been working to expand their public access network called Xfinity Wifi. This network allows Comcast customers on the go to access the internet using their Comcast credentials from any of these public “Xfinity Wifi hotspots”. It also allows non-Comcast customers to purchase short term access to these hotspots.

What a lot of their subscribers do not understand is that these “hotspots” are actually the Xfinity wireless routers in people’s homes and businesses. Comcast has turned the routers their customers pay a monthly fee for (and the electricity to power) into a publicly accessible hotspot which the company profits from.

When questioned about the security of customer’s data, Comcast claims there is no need for concern as the guest network is completely separated from the homeowner’s private network yet Comcast does not provide any details on how this is done.

Anyone who understands computer security and/or wireless networking would find this disturbing.

There are ways Xfinity Wifi can be compromised putting subscribers at risk.

A criminal with a stolen credit card can purchase short term Comcast access and then unbeknownst to you use your router to can carry out their illegal activity. Should the police track such illegal activity, it will lead them to your door essentially leaving you with having to “prove” you were not the one carrying out the illegal act.

Comcast claims that should someone use your router to commit an illegal act the real perpetrator can be traced. Logic alone dictates that if the criminal uses a stolen credit card to purchase the access, there is no way to trace them.

Another method is called an “Evil Twin Network”.

Comcasts public access uses the name “xfinitywifi”. A person can change the SSID of their own router to broadcast anything, therefore a cracker (not to be confused with hackers who do not steal or damage) can setup a router with the name “xfinitywifi”. This is essentially bait for a net.

An unsuspecting Comcast subscriber would connect to this “faked” hotspot not realizing that in reality all their actions including the entering of usernames and passwords is being collected by a cracker.

Comcast is not exactly advertising that its subscribers can ask that the public side of the modem/router be turned off. Those that do find out they can do this and request face resistance from customer service who do everything they can to convince the subscriber to leave it on.

Comcast tried to convince me to accept their modem/router which I declined.
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@Drachenfire , very good points. I am always leery of any public WiFi.

As for my own WiFi, I always change the name and password of the SSID right away. Mostly for the reason's you mention. And I don't have any guest access points. If I invite them into my home, I trust them enough to give them access to my WiFi. I just have everything encrypted on my NAS and my Google Drive is tied to my login which has a very strong password.

They just installed my Radio/wireless (Not cellular) internet service this morning. All I can say is WOW. The difference between my 12 mg DSL and my 50 mg P2P service is astounding. It feels faster than my Comcast/Xfinity service that I had a few years ago which was initially 25mg buth they bumped it to 50 near the end.

The problem with that service was it was even more unstable than my CenturyLink DSL.
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