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daveblt 05-12-2016 12:24 PM

New cat5e
 
I am going to replace the original 1958 telephone wiring in my house with cat5e which should be fairly easy to do since most of the wiring is accessible from the basement and it's only one floor . The question is once the wires are hanging in the basement what is the best way to connect all the wiring ? I took out the old lightening protector when the phone company installed a new NID on the outside several years ago. The ends of the wiring in the basement which is about 4 or 5 home runs are just twisted together as of now and are not connected to the NID because they were disconnected from the current service provider which I now have from a coaxial cable.
Thanks

47_47 05-12-2016 02:20 PM

Re: New cat5e
 
Use a 66 or a 110 punch down block.

ddawg16 05-12-2016 02:25 PM

Re: New cat5e
 
What ^he^ said....

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daveblt 05-12-2016 02:50 PM

Re: New cat5e
 
What is the difference between the punchdown block and a patch panel block ? Also can I use the NID to run the wiring to instead ?

rjniles 05-12-2016 03:13 PM

Re: New cat5e
 
What are you using the Cat5 for?

daveblt 05-12-2016 03:20 PM

Re: New cat5e
 
For phone .Actually my modem provides form the phone with the coaxial cable and it plugs into a jack which supplies the rest of the jacks in the house.

rjniles 05-12-2016 04:04 PM

Re: New cat5e
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daveblt (Post 3277930)
For phone .Actually my modem provides form the phone with the coaxial cable and it plugs into a jack which supplies the rest of the jacks in the house.

You are wasting your time and money. no need for CAT 5 for phone service.

ddawg16 05-12-2016 05:29 PM

Re: New cat5e
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rjniles (Post 3278122)
You are wasting your time and money. no need for CAT 5 for phone service.

I strongly disagree.....as will most phone experts.

Cat 5/E/6 is outstanding for phone line usage.

1. Excellent signal characteristics
2. Inexpensive (cheap)
3. Multi-line (up to 4 phones)
4. Robust
5. You can use existing crimpers to crimp an RJ-11 plug on it.

Why buy just phone line cable when that spare chunk of Ethernet cable will work as well if not better.

rjniles 05-12-2016 06:28 PM

Re: New cat5e
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ddawg16 (Post 3278306)
I strongly disagree.....as will most phone experts.

Cat 5/E/6 is outstanding for phone line usage.

1. Excellent signal characteristics
2. Inexpensive (cheap)
3. Multi-line (up to 4 phones)
4. Robust
5. You can use existing crimpers to crimp an RJ-11 plug on it.

Why buy just phone line cable when that spare chunk of Ethernet cable will work as well if not better.


Why replace existing inside wire (most likely CAT3 ) if all you want is phone service? If this were a new install I would agree with you as CAT 5/6 can be used for data.
I would not call myself a phone expert but I did work in a local wire line Telco for 33 years.

daveblt 05-12-2016 09:33 PM

Re: New cat5e
 
This is not even cat3 . It is the existing 2 pair from that precedes cat3 from 1958 .

ddawg16 05-12-2016 10:04 PM

Re: New cat5e
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rjniles (Post 3278474)
Why replace existing inside wire (most likely CAT3 ) if all you want is phone service? If this were a new install I would agree with you as CAT 5/6 can be used for data.
I would not call myself a phone expert but I did work in a local wire line Telco for 33 years.

So you will know what AML and CM8 is?

gregzoll 05-13-2016 12:38 AM

Re: New cat5e
 
If there is no static or noise on the old Telco wire, it will continue to work for a long time.

Pulling Cat-5e only works if you can get it to where the current jacks are. When you pull it, pull two runs to each outlet. One for Ethernet and the other for phone.

I only ran six wires when I redid my network. Two jacks have two each and two have one. That is because I have a switch at those jacks that I have more than two pieces of gear that needs to be hard wired.

Our phones are Cellphones, no need for landline or Digital VoIP.




gregzoll 05-13-2016 12:40 AM

Re: New cat5e
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rjniles (Post 3278122)
You are wasting your time and money. no need for CAT 5 for phone service.

Actually that is what is being ran these days for phones in homes. Offices all get Cat-6 runs for every jack. Different colored jackets for different uses. Makes it easier to ID.




gregzoll 05-13-2016 12:41 AM

Re: New cat5e
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daveblt (Post 3278946)
This is not even cat3 . It is the existing 2 pair from that precedes cat3 from 1958 .

It is just standard Bell Wire that is a heavier gauge than anything used these days. It will last for a lot longer. All that you need is only one pair for phone. Tip & Ring.




bote110 12-24-2017 04:57 PM

Re: New cat5e
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daveblt (Post 3277930)
For phone .Actually my modem provides form the phone with the coaxial cable and it plugs into a jack which supplies the rest of the jacks in the house.

I have a Comcast modem and it has a input for a phone line


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