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Old 04-24-2015, 07:09 PM   #31
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Yep ,...$585 worth (plus court fees of $120),and 2 points on his license ! LOL!
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Old 04-25-2015, 08:41 AM   #32
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I like the old stuff also, one thing that will kill a small gas engine is the ethanol gas. Don't even think about putting it in your boat either.

I have to disagree and am so tired of hearing people say that. My 2002 Snapper rider has never used anything but 10% ethanol gas. Same for all my other gas toys included my 4 stroke outboard.

Gas sits in the mower tank from early December to mid March and I do have to pull the cord twice for that first start of the season.

How any why? A simple little additive named Stabil used in every can of gas every time the can is filled.
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Dealers are using the alcohol gas to their advantage and milking it for all it's worth. Double dipping. Customer pays for repair because of the alcohol gas that was used. No warranty according to the dealer. Dealer turns in warranty claim and gets paid again.
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Dealers are using the alcohol gas to their advantage and milking it for all it's worth. Double dipping. Customer pays for repair because of the alcohol gas that was used. No warranty according to the dealer. Dealer turns in warranty claim and gets paid again.
In the 20+ years I've burned ethanol, I have never had one single ethanol-related problem with any vehicle it has been used in - from the smallest lawn mower to the truck that pulled the mower trailer.

My observation (and I'm not going to claim this as some verified fact) is that there are two main problems with ethanol:
1. In extreme heat, the alcohol vaporizes at a different temperature than the gasoline. On one occasion, several years ago, I was driving my vintage Volvo in 108 degree heat. It began bogging down in a very worrisome way, and did so until I pulled over and filled up with non-ethanol gas.
2. During storage, the alcohol evaporates differently than the gasoline. That can leave you with some weird residue problems.

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Old 04-25-2015, 08:30 PM   #35
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My 1985 C10 Stalls out,when the temp hits mid to high 90's.
If I use non ethanol unleaded, it doesn't .
I have found that ethanol fuels draw water,even just sitting,and they will separate if they sit too long.
I used to have to replace the fuel lines on my lawn tractors,once every 2 years,due to them flaking,inside.
I now run the plastic lines,that are designed for ethanol,and the problem was solved.
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Old 04-26-2015, 07:59 AM   #36
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My 1985 C10 Stalls out,when the temp hits mid to high 90's.
If I use non ethanol unleaded, it doesn't .

I have found that ethanol fuels draw water,even just sitting,and they will separate if they sit too long.
I used to have to replace the fuel lines on my lawn tractors,once every 2 years,due to them flaking,inside.
I now run the plastic lines,that are designed for ethanol,and the problem was solved.
Yeah, I've found it interesting that certain vehicles will have a problem with ethanol when it's extremely hot outside. Others won't. And it's very random.

The whole ethanol experiment has been a wide learning curve. The government didn't have its ducks in a row when it began mandating it, and Big Oil & the Auto Industry certainly haven't worked together. And there has been a lot of misinformation coming from the Big Oil Propaganda Machine.

In the end, I think ethanol is here to stay. But it's not going to be allowed to impact the price of corn the way it has in the past.
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Old 04-28-2015, 01:44 AM   #37
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I have noticed that fuel injected engines ,that is,TRUE fuel injection,not TBI,don't have a problem with this heat.
My truck,being carbed,does,because the carb gets hot,and the fuel separates,and boils in the float bowl.
When it does this,I put fuel in through the carb bowl vent,after letting it cool a bit,and it fires up,until it idles at a light,and gets hot,again.
I have a base adapter that I made,that operates like a "cool can",and I plan on trying it ,this summer.
It's a real PITA,when the engine dies in 100 degree heat,in traffic !
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Any more, I think it all depends on how they're "specced." The ultra-cheap "Brute/Yard King/Murray" mowers you can buy for $129 at WalMart or Menards do NOT have good engines on them, regardless of what "brand" the engine is.

Oddly, anymore, brand means very little when it comes to mowers.
Oddly enough when my wife and I got married I went and bought a Menards Yard King/Man/whatever mower. The deck rotted out on it from being stored outside last year, We've been married since 2003. I was surprised my self. The only thing that happened was I bent the crank shaft when I hit a man hole cover burred in the grass. I bought a new mow the exact same while trying to figure out what to do with the old one. Paid $25 to have it straightened. I gave that mower to my sister and she still uses it to this day. So I guess I was lucky twice. I never thought much of their "equipment". I can tell you the weed eater I bought from one of the big box stores is a huge pile of crap. 10 pulls and it might start, have to run it on 1/2 choke ect.

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In the 20+ years I've burned ethanol, I have never had one single ethanol-related problem with any vehicle it has been used in - from the smallest lawn mower to the truck that pulled the mower trailer.

My observation (and I'm not going to claim this as some verified fact) is that there are two main problems with ethanol:
1. In extreme heat, the alcohol vaporizes at a different temperature than the gasoline. On one occasion, several years ago, I was driving my vintage Volvo in 108 degree heat. It began bogging down in a very worrisome way, and did so until I pulled over and filled up with non-ethanol gas.
2. During storage, the alcohol evaporates differently than the gasoline. That can leave you with some weird residue problems.
I run ethanol in about everything even my 1/2 truck pulling a camper, only thing I don't run it in is the Harley.
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Oddly enough when my wife and I got married I went and bought a Menards Yard King/Man/whatever mower. The deck rotted out on it from being stored outside last year, We've been married since 2003. I was surprised my self. The only thing that happened was I bent the crank shaft when I hit a man hole cover burred in the grass. I bought a new mow the exact same while trying to figure out what to do with the old one. Paid $25 to have it straightened. I gave that mower to my sister and she still uses it to this day. So I guess I was lucky twice. I never thought much of their "equipment". I can tell you the weed eater I bought from one of the big box stores is a huge pile of crap. 10 pulls and it might start, have to run it on 1/2 choke ect.
Yeah man, it's a crap-shoot isn't it? Maybe the lack of quality control is one of the reasons some of that stuff is cheap.

Many years ago, my folks bought a "Vulcan" brand push mower, at KMart, for (I think) $89. 3hp Briggs, no bagger or self-propelled. Just absolutely bottom-end, bare-bones mower. Didn't even have a throttle.

They mowed everything on their farm with that thing, and for 10-12 years. Maybe more. You couldn't kill the stupid thing. I have no idea how many plastic wheels and blades they replaced. It was unbelievable. I think dad finally ran over it with a tractor or something.

Go figure...
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Most small engines can be re-tuned to run just fine if you buy the right adjustment tool and ignore the Peoples Republic of California and their CARB rules.
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Take a look at your fuel filters after using ethanol. I won't use ethanol again in anything I own.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:42 AM   #42
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Take a look at your fuel filters after using ethanol. I won't use ethanol again in anything I own.
That's cool. But that was not my experience.

I ran dozens of mowers in my sideline lawn-mowing service - and did so for a lot of years. I never had any ethanol-related problems in any of them.
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Yeah man, it's a crap-shoot isn't it? Maybe the lack of quality control is one of the reasons some of that stuff is cheap.

Many years ago, my folks bought a "Vulcan" brand push mower, at KMart, for (I think) $89. 3hp Briggs, no bagger or self-propelled. Just absolutely bottom-end, bare-bones mower. Didn't even have a throttle.

They mowed everything on their farm with that thing, and for 10-12 years. Maybe more. You couldn't kill the stupid thing. I have no idea how many plastic wheels and blades they replaced. It was unbelievable. I think dad finally ran over it with a tractor or something.

Go figure...
It really is a crap shoot. One thing I noticed on the new one I just got last year is there is no more Hp rating, I think its torque and it's all CC's. I'm not even sure what engine it has, looks like a briggs I never really payed much attention, I needed a new mower and went and bought a fairly cheap one. If I wanted to spend money I would have got a Toro or a Honda. A new feature on this mower is there is no priming bulb. You just pull and go, we will see how long this lasts...

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What have you seen with them? Just build up?
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It really is a crap shoot. One thing I noticed on the new one I just got last year is there is no more Hp rating, I think its torque and it's all CC's. I'm not even sure what engine it has, looks like a briggs I never really payed much attention, I needed a new mower and went and bought a fairly cheap one. If I wanted to spend money I would have got a Toro or a Honda. A new feature on this mower is there is no priming bulb. You just pull and go, we will see how long this lasts...
As I see it, it's great to have choices - even the choice to buy the ultra-cheap stuff. When we were doing our lawn-care business, most of the line trimmers I bought were the $69 cheapos. They eventually wore out, just like my $320 John Deere trimmer, but it's not hard to do the math and see which ones had a better ROI.

There were/are other situations, however, where it's worth it to spend more on a better product.
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It really is a crap shoot. One thing I noticed on the new one I just got last year is there is no more Hp rating, I think its torque and it's all CC's. I'm not even sure what engine it has, looks like a briggs I never really payed much attention, I needed a new mower and went and bought a fairly cheap one. If I wanted to spend money I would have got a Toro or a Honda. A new feature on this mower is there is no priming bulb. You just pull and go, we will see how long this lasts...



What have you seen with them? Just build up?
Looked like rusty sandy garbage. Our ole car just won't run worth a cuss on the stuff. I am happy for you guys who don't have a problem with ethanol, I wish I didn't, the higher cost of the nonethanol is the pits.
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