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Old 11-20-2014, 08:57 AM   #16
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If it doesn't have a Briggs&Stratton motor on it, I don't expect it to last more than a year.
Not even close to true. We switched all of our Briggs out with Honda's for our roofing equipment, they last a lot longer.

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I just spent 3 days trying to find one replacement B & S motor for my DR leaf vac.
Second one that the connecting rod's broke and shot it through the side of the motor after 5 years of use.
B & S puts numbers all over the place, Model, Type, serial #, a bar coded sticker, none of which where of any help.
The one on the OHV cover is the one they need, it comes up as a 3/4 shaft, not the 1" I need.
B & S tells me I need to buy a motor and a crank shaft then change it myself.
I call the OEM of the DR and they tell me none of there equipment uses a 3/4" shaft and has the motor on the shelf using the same numbers I had given B & S, and 4 other places you can buy motors at.
Going to cost me twice as much but it's at least a direct replacement.
Buy a bushing. I had this problem with my snow blower, found an engine cheap but it was a 3/4" shaft not 1". I think the bushing was $10

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I'm still rocking a John Deere 826 Snowblower that's about a 1978 model. It would destroy anything on the market today, except maybe the very top-enders. It's unstoppable. And I'm old...
I'm still rocking a 80's Ariens. My wife calls it the beast. It use to be so loud with the original engine. I put a new one on 3 years ago, still loud but not as bad. The original one was electric start so the new one I bought with electric start. Haven't used it yet. Got it out a week ago before the snow and it started on the 2nd pull. I need to make a new cutting edge, at some point in its life all of that wore out and dad never fixed it. He gave it to me when he couldn't get it started, the magnet had adhered from the flywheel.
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If it doesn't have a Briggs&Stratton motor on it, I don't expect it to last more than a year.
Seriously?

First of all, Briggs&Stratton makes quite a few "lines" of engines - some of them being extremely cheap, throw-away models.

Second, from my years of lawn-care experience, I'd have to say that Kawasaki, Kohler and Honda all make better gas engines than Briggs&Stratton.
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Old 11-20-2014, 11:21 AM   #19
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I'm still rocking a 80's Ariens. My wife calls it the beast. It use to be so loud with the original engine. I put a new one on 3 years ago, still loud but not as bad. The original one was electric start so the new one I bought with electric start. Haven't used it yet. Got it out a week ago before the snow and it started on the 2nd pull. I need to make a new cutting edge, at some point in its life all of that wore out and dad never fixed it. He gave it to me when he couldn't get it started, the magnet had adhered from the flywheel.
If I'm not mistaken, the Ariens & John Deeres of that vintage were extremely similar. I wouldn't go so far as to say they were made in the same plant, but I wouldn't be surprised.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Ariens & John Deeres of that vintage were extremely similar. I wouldn't go so far as to say they were made in the same plant, but I wouldn't be surprised.
It's very possible. Like a lot of things they just painted them different and slapped different stickers on. If you go look for a new Ariens 2 stage I don't think you could get one for under a grand. I got mine for free and found a new motor when it needed it for around $200. I expect it will last until my son is ready to use it at his house and thats at least another 11 years away. By that time I may rebuild the whole thing and repaint it.

My neighbor has an older Ariens 2 stage I think around a 60's has the old hard wheels on it it is white and red instead of orange and black. It just sits there I want to take it off his hands for a project for me and the kids but when ever I mention it my wife informs me off all the other projects and "junk" I have. She even went as far as to sell off a aluminum deck john deere self propel, and a couple other mowers when I was out of town for work. I laughed when she told me someone offered $75 for the mowers, I secretly cried on the inside about the John Deere anyway.


One year we were up visiting her parents and I drug a trailer the 4 hours up there. She asked the whole time why, I told her once we got there her grandpa had a old 50's maybe early 60's John Deere open top crawler loader that had been sitting in the field since he threw a track in the 70's . She was mad until we got there and grandpa had let the scrapers take it. I was pretty upset then but he was getting older and didn't remember things clearly.

Nothing beats old stuff.

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My everyday mower is a JohnDeere Lx266, but my "work horse" is a 1969Bolens 1050.
True,the Wisconsin engine was replaced with a Kohler K301s,but ,it starts every time,and is heavy duty enough to plow snow,plow a garden,or even pull mt 6'x10' trailer !
With a lockable differential,it PULLS !
As for Briggs engines,....I have a B/S horizontal twin engine that is 30 yrsold, and has the ball bearing crank shaft. Runs great .B/S,and Kohler,both had engines made in China,and both had problems.
Kohler went back to their own,but I don't know if B/S did.
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I have an 80's bolens 1600 hydro with a 3 blade deck and a rear rototiller, 3X more raw steel in that thing than newer lawn tractors.

My neighbor found a brand new looking cman snowblower that wouldn't run for free, upon disassembly I found the failure to be a PLASTIC camshaft. Really, you thought a plastic cam was a good idea?

I somewhat collect mechanics hardline handtools, the older stuff is most generally miles better than the common stuff people buy today..

If you care check out SK tools, they have a commitment to "made in USA" IMO setting a good example.
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My everyday mower is a JohnDeere Lx266, but my "work horse" is a 1969Bolens 1050.
True,the Wisconsin engine was replaced with a Kohler K301s,but ,it starts every time,and is heavy duty enough to plow snow,plow a garden,or even pull mt 6'x10' trailer !
With a lockable differential,it PULLS !
As for Briggs engines,....I have a B/S horizontal twin engine that is 30 yrsold, and has the ball bearing crank shaft. Runs great .B/S,and Kohler,both had engines made in China,and both had problems.
Kohler went back to their own,but I don't know if B/S did.
Any more, I think it all depends on how they're "specced." The ultra-cheap "Brute/Yard King/Murray" mowers you can buy for $129 at WalMart or Menards do NOT have good engines on them, regardless of what "brand" the engine is.

Oddly, anymore, brand means very little when it comes to mowers.
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Yeah,very true.
Do you remember when MTD/toro,etc,used the Tecumseh 2 cycle engines? you couldn't kill them.
Then,when Tecumseh went out, the all switched to the China-made Briggs knock off.
A friend bought one,and the 3rd time he used it, the recoil exploded,and when he tried to get parts,it took 4 months,and they were the wrong ones!.
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Yeah,very true.
Do you remember when MTD/toro,etc,used the Tecumseh 2 cycle engines? you couldn't kill them.
Then,when Tecumseh went out, the all switched to the China-made Briggs knock off.
A friend bought one,and the 3rd time he used it, the recoil exploded,and when he tried to get parts,it took 4 months,and they were the wrong ones!.
Yeah, I had a Toro with that 2-cycle. It was about halfway terrifying. I was never able to wrap my mind around a lawnmower engine running that fast. I think it was rated as a 5hp, but I honestly believe it cranked out more like 9-10 hp.
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Yes , they could run much higher RPMs,because there were no valves,so they didn't"float out".
If I recall,correctly, the ones with points would run up to 5500 rpms but the ones with the electronic ignition could run at close to 8000 rpms,with out harm.
We had one in the shop that we put the OCP tach on,and it turned 11,890 rpms,for 12 minutes,before it quit !
We found out ,later,the coil had fried,but it ran,again,when the coil was replaced,and the governed speed was reduced!
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Yes , they could run much higher RPMs,because there were no valves,so they didn't"float out".
If I recall,correctly, the ones with points would run up to 5500 rpms but the ones with the electronic ignition could run at close to 8000 rpms,with out harm.
We had one in the shop that we put the OCP tach on,and it turned 11,890 rpms,for 12 minutes,before it quit !
We found out ,later,the coil had fried,but it ran,again,when the coil was replaced,and the governed speed was reduced!
Holy cow! You BETTER keep the grass chute on that mower!

Actually, I'm not surprised that they didn't sell a lot of them. Your basic Joe Consumer would not like the sound of that mower, and would probably get the oil/gas mix wrong 9 times out of 10. But the guys who understand those mowers love them.

When I put mine on Craigslist this past year, there were 3 guys who were HOT after that mower - and would gladly have paid far more than I was asking.
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A friend of mine tore up the housing on his Toro Snow thrower. So he put the 7hp 2 cycle on a go kart,just to play with it.
He went down the street,and when he came back,he had 2 police cars on his tail.
They gave him 4 tickets:
1=operating an unregistered vehicle on the street.
2=Not wearing a helmet on a recreational off-road vehicle.
3= Disobeying traffic signs.
and 4= Driving 54 mph in a 25mph zone !

he pulled the motor off,and sold it .
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A friend of mine tore up the housing on his Toro Snow thrower. So he put the 7hp 2 cycle on a go kart,just to play with it.
He went down the street,and when he came back,he had 2 police cars on his tail.
They gave him 4 tickets:
1=operating an unregistered vehicle on the street.
2=Not wearing a helmet on a recreational off-road vehicle.
3= Disobeying traffic signs.
and 4= Driving 54 mph in a 25mph zone !

he pulled the motor off,and sold it.
...to pay for his tickets.
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