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Old 11-14-2014, 09:44 PM   #1
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Maybe I am just getting old


I went and just pushed every piece of gas powered equipment I had to the curb. Anything that was not in working order. I was always that guy with all the old mowers and such that were still working great. Now all I have left is my 40 plus year old equipment. I is all in near perfect shape because it can be repaired. The final straw was this wal mart snowblower. I just needed to clean the carb. They have this plastic sheild over everything/ You can not even get to the carb with out taking half the thing apart. That was it, I am just done dealing with Chinese junk. I am just so sick of being surrounded by total throw away junk. Am I just getting old?
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Old 11-15-2014, 07:16 AM   #2
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yeah, perhaps. because you can remember when things actually lasted.

btw, my 25+ year old toro snowblower has a big plastic cover on it. that i would have to remove to get to the carb.
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I may have said it before so this may only be a reminder. Appearance sells the product.
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I like the old stuff also, one thing that will kill a small gas engine is the ethanol gas. Don't even think about putting it in your boat either.

The things some people throw away is unreal. A BBQ grill made from cast aluminum is one of them, all a person has to do is clean it up, replace the insides and it is good to go.

Most of us older fellows like to tinker, but like MJ said, most of the things now days is throwaway and not worth foolin with. It does go against my grain to throw things away that look like they should be able to be fixed.
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If it doesn't have a Briggs&Stratton motor on it, I don't expect it to last more than a year.
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I just spent 3 days trying to find one replacement B & S motor for my DR leaf vac.
Second one that the connecting rod's broke and shot it through the side of the motor after 5 years of use.
B & S puts numbers all over the place, Model, Type, serial #, a bar coded sticker, none of which where of any help.
The one on the OHV cover is the one they need, it comes up as a 3/4 shaft, not the 1" I need.
B & S tells me I need to buy a motor and a crank shaft then change it myself.
I call the OEM of the DR and they tell me none of there equipment uses a 3/4" shaft and has the motor on the shelf using the same numbers I had given B & S, and 4 other places you can buy motors at.
Going to cost me twice as much but it's at least a direct replacement.
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Old 11-15-2014, 10:00 PM   #7
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A lot of Briggs are China made now.
Hard to compete with a country that has little regard for human life.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...EE4F10045904D6

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...B805146746B5F1

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A lot of Briggs are China made now.
Hard to compete with a country that has little regard for human life.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...EE4F10045904D6

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...B805146746B5F1
Couldn't open the first link but the second one is unreal, that is so sad, what a shame.
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A lot of Briggs are China made now.
Learned something new. I thought they were still made in the US. Turns out that 90% of them are put together in the US with china parts.

This link is interesting to read:

http://www.snowblowerforum.com/forum...ade-china.html
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Learned something new. I thought they were still made in the US. Turns out that 90% of them are put together in the US with china parts.

This link is interesting to read:

http://www.snowblowerforum.com/forum...ade-china.html
Interesting, I try to buy USA or Canada if possible with any products, China being my last choice.
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I went and just pushed every piece of gas powered equipment I had to the curb. Anything that was not in working order. I was always that guy with all the old mowers and such that were still working great. Now all I have left is my 40 plus year old equipment. I is all in near perfect shape because it can be repaired. The final straw was this wal mart snowblower. I just needed to clean the carb. They have this plastic sheild over everything/ You can not even get to the carb with out taking half the thing apart. That was it, I am just done dealing with Chinese junk. I am just so sick of being surrounded by total throw away junk. Am I just getting old?
I'm still rocking a John Deere 826 Snowblower that's about a 1978 model. It would destroy anything on the market today, except maybe the very top-enders. It's unstoppable. And I'm old...
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Old 11-19-2014, 02:43 PM   #12
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I'm with you MJ12.

My newest OPE is 11 years old now, a John Deere JS63C lawnmower.
My rider, a REAL Wheel Horse 212-H (Briggs), from 1988.
Ariens snowblower (Tecumseh) is 30 years old.
Milwaukee generator (Briggs) is 43 years old.
Earth Bird tiller (Briggs) is 51 years old.

All of it works great and is easy to fix if I have to.
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Interesting, I try to buy USA or Canada if possible with any products, China being my last choice.
We're the same way, except that Viet Nam is our last choice. Generational defect on my part, I guess. One morning last winter though, the coldest and snowiest winter that we've had in quite a few years, I was headed back to a commercial site along the Detroit River, and knew that big building under construction, with some areas only sheltered by plastic, was going to be cold. About 4:00 that morning, and I don't recall exactly now but the temperature around zero, I said to my wife, "look at this". Forget the hard hat, or any tools that I had in the truck, I figured that the most important detail that day was clothing, So, for some reason I took note, and realized that the only thing I put on that may have been made in the U.S.A. were a pair of insulated work boots and a Carhartt coat. Everything else was labeled as foreign made. Since then I have watched even more closely, and have decided that we Americans would be running around naked if left to our own devices.
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Even in a top line kitchen store Williams and Sonoma everything is from China.

There are some things I'd buy for my house, linens and kitchen items, but can't find made in USA., so will do without.

Rubbermaid until recently made food storage containers in USA. I was happy to find some in Walmart and saw USA so bought them. Got home and read 'designed in USA, made in Malaysia'
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I think a lot of people could become filthy rich by making products in the USA made the old-fashioned way with quality parts. The niche and the need are out there as seen in this thread. Pick a product, heck, any product and make it here, and I think the market would open up nicely. I hate throwaway washing machines so I've had this dream of renting a decent sized warehouse, procuring quality parts, and assembling them with a small staff of employees to keep costs down. Even making t-shirts in the USA could be very profitable IMO.
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