Expansion Joint? - Concrete, Stone & Masonry - DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum
Advertisement


Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Concrete, Stone & Masonry

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Display Modes
Old 03-25-2014, 11:17 AM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: NY
Posts: 76
Rewards Points: 109
Default

expansion joint?


I have a concrete pad that mt front stairs come down onto. The asphalt driveway butts up to this concrete pad. When it heaves in the winter it crumbles the asphalt. Should there be an expansion joint between the 2 different materials?
hitmehhh is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 03-25-2014, 11:35 AM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 36,833
Rewards Points: 18,808
Default


Simple answer is yes there should have been.
__________________
When posting in forums, letting us know your location will help others give better feedback/advice/solutions to your questions
joecaption is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 03-25-2014, 12:47 PM   #3
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 2,444
Rewards Points: 144
Default


Easy enough job to cut the asphalt out 1/2 or so between the two.
mako1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 03-25-2014, 05:22 PM   #4
Master General ReEngineer
 
Bondo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Greenfield Maine
Posts: 9,473
Rewards Points: 1,056
Default


Quote:
Originally Posted by joecaption View Post
Simple answer is yes there should have been.
Ayuh,.... In the 22 years I've been buildin' roads, parkin' lots, 'n driveways,...

I've Always paved tight to the concrete,...
It's a natural joint which can heave independently of each other,...

If the blacktop is crumblin',...
My 1st question is How Old is the blacktop,...
Post a picture of it,...

Sounds like poor drainage of either the driveway, or the walkway,...
Bondo is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Bondo For This Useful Post:
jomama45 (03-25-2014), Nailbags (03-26-2014)
Old 03-25-2014, 09:30 PM   #5
Concrete & Masonry
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 3,780
Rewards Points: 506
Default


Quote:
Originally Posted by Bondo View Post
Ayuh,.... In the 22 years I've been buildin' roads, parkin' lots, 'n driveways,...

I've Always paved tight to the concrete,...
It's a natural joint which can heave independently of each other,...

If the blacktop is crumblin',...
My 1st question is How Old is the blacktop,...
Post a picture of it,...

Sounds like poor drainage of either the driveway, or the walkway,...
I've been pouring concrete for a similar amount of time, and I can't say I've ever seen expansion material placed between the two either, nor have I seen a detail that called for it. If the two materials are bearing on the same soil, there's not much reason they should move much differently...........
jomama45 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2014, 08:15 PM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 2,008
Rewards Points: 468
Default


I wonder if the concrete pad is set below the frost line and the asphalt is floating.

My concrete walks and paths have taken a worse beating this winter than in the 18 years previous that I have lived in my house.
Jim F is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2014, 01:46 PM   #7
Mold!! Let's kill it!
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Central Pennsylvania
Posts: 2,849
Rewards Points: 2,012
Default


Make sure that the two can travel independently. If you've bonded the asphalt to the concrete with a sealant, the asphalt is going to crumble during a freeze thaw cycle from vertical movement rather than expansion/contraction.
Maintenance 6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2014, 05:44 AM   #8
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: atl & hilton head
Posts: 6,585
Rewards Points: 3,454
Default


IF the right ' sealant ' has been used, there would have been a constructed joint but its unlikely in residential const - even expansion jnt mtl's not often used,,, in any event, there won't be any bonding,,, any likely crumbling will be due to inadequately compacted blacktop im-n-s-h-fo
stadry is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Recurring ceiling crack - Drywall Expansion Joint? kuj0317 Drywall & Plaster 5 11-25-2012 11:27 PM
Concrete Driveway and expansion joint segal Concrete, Stone & Masonry 14 08-30-2012 09:25 AM
Goofy expansion joint question 614Brewer Landscaping & Lawn Care 2 06-09-2012 08:32 AM
Expansion joint john4153 Plumbing 0 10-05-2011 07:51 PM
Tiling over expansion joint - confused jkr77 Flooring 20 04-12-2011 03:56 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts