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Old 05-08-2019, 09:36 AM   #1
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Window & Door Install in Older Home _HELP Please


Greetings!
I am about to tackle a window replacement job.
The older home has 8 - 36"x48" aluminum crank windows in a sunroom. The exterior is brick and the windows sit on cement.

I want to install three (3) - 72"x 48" (Lowes: Item # 358395 Model # JWPREM SLD 6040 72x 48 JELD-WEN V-4500 Left-Operable Vinyl New Construction Egress White Exterior Sliding Window) in three of the "holes".

For the remaining opening where two 36x48 windows are, I plan to install one (Lowes: Item # 358332 Model # JWVYL SLD 3040 36x 48 JELD-WEN V-2500 Left-Operable Vinyl New Construction White Exterior Sliding Window) AND
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Lowes: Item # 935536 Model # TTBS628863 Therma-Tru Benchmark Doors Full Lite Clear Glass Left-Hand Inswing Ready To Paint Steel Prehung Entry Door with Insulating Core (Another individual is going to cut the doorway.


I need some advice on the framing for the windows and doors. Whatever you can help with will certainly be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Pretty broad based question. What framing are you doing?
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Window rough opening is the size you order and they make the window slightly smaller for fitting in the hole. 72 inch windows will need a 78" header with two jacks under each end with a king stud beside that.

Doors are ordered by slab size so you frame 2" wider and 2 1/2" higher than what you order. If you are replacing a 36" window with a door, just order a 2'10" door.


So for the wider windows you have to deal with the new header and new lintel for the brick.

I would always do 2, 2x10 headers if there is room and the lintel I do not know about.
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Pretty broad based question. What framing are you doing?
I was anticipating building a frame to set the windows in. Possibly a 2x4 frame secured to the walls.??
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I was anticipating building a frame to set the windows in. Possibly a 2x4 frame secured to the walls.??
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How wide is that group of windows and what window are you putting there and is the lumber between those windows.
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How wide is that group of windows and what window are you putting there and is the lumber between those windows.
Each window is width 36 x 48 length. No lumber is between the windows.
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Each window is width 36 x 48 length. No lumber is between the windows.
How wide is that group of windows and what window are you putting there and is the lumber between those windows.
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I’ll have measure the entire group. It’s at one of my daughter’s house. I’m going there Saturday. I’ll get back to you. The windows are Lowe’s item 358395.
Appreciate your help!
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You need to get the windows rough opening measurements then how you are going to frame and finish. Finish are trims, jambs, possibly siding and maybe flashing. Windows could be installed using install flanges which need space. When you are sure how to finish, then you can figure out what size windows can fill the space you have left.
Side by side windows with flanges can have one 2x frame. Flange over flange. But sealing/flashing/caulking may get more tricky for the tight space.


About the windows, I don't know much about current slide windows. From past, I've heard how wind leaky they are. Sash slides, so it makes sense that they can't have better seals. Hairy type of seal means more leaks. Imagine the brush type of door seal. It is obvious they will let more wind through.
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You need to get the windows rough opening measurements then how you are going to frame and finish. Finish are trims, jambs, possibly siding and maybe flashing. Windows could be installed using install flanges which need space. When you are sure how to finish, then you can figure out what size windows can fill the space you have left.
Side by side windows with flanges can have one 2x frame. Flange over flange. But sealing/flashing/caulking may get more tricky for the tight space.


About the windows, I don't know much about current slide windows. From past, I've heard how wind leaky they are. Sash slides, so it makes sense that they can't have better seals. Hairy type of seal means more leaks. Imagine the brush type of door seal. It is obvious they will let more wind through.
That is what I was afraid of, 2 72" windows may not work in a 12 ft opening.
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Thank you gentlemen for giving me some great information. That’s why I asked. I’ve installed replacement windows, but this is a little more difficult......as you professionally pointed out.
I’ll be back when I go visit her.
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OKAY...Man was I off in left field!
After thoroughly looking over the upcoming project I offer the following for your expert recommendations.
The area where the bank of windows is not on concrete or brick (the basement windows that I have to replace are - old age confusion!). The bottom portion of the house is brick, but the upper is wood.
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The current inside measurements for the opening is 146.25"x 48.75". Therefore, I will have to perform some cutting to fit one 72"x48" sliding window, one 36"x48" slider window and one 32" exterior door.

Whatever I find when I remove the molding and such, I'll have to modify the opening to frame and install these items.
How do you suggest I frame each?
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OKAY...Man was I off in left field!
After thoroughly looking over the upcoming project I offer the following for your expert recommendations.
The area where the bank of windows is not on concrete or brick (the basement windows that I have to replace are - old age confusion!). The bottom portion of the house is brick, but the upper is wood.
Attachment 558265

The current inside measurements for the opening is 146.25"x 48.75". Therefore, I will have to perform some cutting to fit one 72"x48" sliding window, one 36"x48" slider window and one 32" exterior door.

Whatever I find when I remove the molding and such, I'll have to modify the opening to frame and install these items.
How do you suggest I frame each?
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OKAY...Man was I off in left field!
After thoroughly looking over the upcoming project I offer the following for your expert recommendations.
The area where the bank of windows is not on concrete or brick (the basement windows that I have to replace are - old age confusion!). The bottom portion of the house is brick, but the upper is wood.
Attachment 558265

The current inside measurements for the opening is 146.25"x 48.75". Therefore, I will have to perform some cutting to fit one 72"x48" sliding window, one 36"x48" slider window and one 32" exterior door.

Whatever I find when I remove the molding and such, I'll have to modify the opening to frame and install these items.
How do you suggest I frame each?
Any chance you can change the window order, it should be 30 72 30
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