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Old 04-12-2019, 02:05 PM   #16
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A good thing to do for maintenance on springs is to occasionally oil them . When we change clocks for day light savings I go out and hit the springs with some WD40 or any aerosol lubricant I have at the time . Just spray a rag or paper towel and rub the springs . If you stop the rust from condensation and humidity that helps the spring last longer . At 30 years you've had a great run ! Might also be a good time to check out the rubber gasket at the bottom of the door , it not only seals out weather but acts as a minor shock absorber when the door touches the concrete .
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The life of a spring is the number of times they have been stretched or torqued so when one goes, the life of the rest is questionable.
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Thanks again, people. But just came back from HD with a set of springs (will go back to buy the other 2) and matched the new one up to old one and even though the broken one was yellow coded (and I bought a yellow) the length on the new one is 25" and old one is 28-29". This makes no sense. I measured the old one that had no sections stretched out, meaning, coil on coil touching. Whats going on with these colors??! Sheesh.

Now looks like I have to remove all, and weigh the door, then go from there. I dont trust the colors anymore.
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See post some time back! All mfg use different colors. Capacity is the key.
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Old 04-12-2019, 03:23 PM   #20
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Oh- just found out the set of yellow springs show directions to install ONE spring on each side for say, the 130 lb door rated. Mine has 2 springs on each side. Im assuming I just need not a new pulley bracket with only one hole for just one spring, as mine has 2 holes.

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See post some time back! All mfg use different colors. Capacity is the key.
Yup. seems like that is the case, no industry standardization. I am getting ready to weigh the door.
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Thanks again, people. But just came back from HD with a set of springs (will go back to buy the other 2) and matched the new one up to old one and even though the broken one was yellow coded (and I bought a yellow) the length on the new one is 25" and old one is 28-29". This makes no sense. I measured the old one that had no sections stretched out, meaning, coil on coil touching. Whats going on with these colors??! Sheesh.

Now looks like I have to remove all, and weigh the door, then go from there. I dont trust the colors anymore.
Different brands have different colour code and the colour code is for the spring strength not the length.



https://ddmgaragedoors.com/springs/s...on-springs.php



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Good link, Neal. One needs a mechanical engineering degree to figure this out.

UPDATE: My door weighs 250 lbs!!!! Sheesh! I almost got killed (with wife) lowering it on the scale!! They made them heavy 30+ years ago! So, I need TWO yellow springs rated for 130 lbs TIMES 2 (2 more for the other side, 2 yellow springs in one box from Everbilt rated for 130 lbs, X 2 for a total of 4 springs). Gonna go back to HD to buy another box, people. No wonder my door had 2 springs on each side.
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What davesal said is important. The door should be hand operable without the opener. Opener should not be lifting too much of the door. In fact, I would prefer the door to lift with a single finger.

I'm not experienced at all but nobody is correcting you and I think you may be wrong. I've done a few single car width doors but not double width doors. Having said that, your door weighs 250 lbs (bath scale and ways of measuring could throw off this number). That door would need a single spring of about 130 lbs on each side. If you have double springs, each spring would be about 65 lbs each. As such, if you replace just one or just one side, it could throw off the balance. Also will not close and slam open.


Another is that I tried the springs from homedepot. What happened is I ordered the first set from amazon. I think national was the brand. I think they were 150 lb springs for my wood frame, ply panel 7' wide door. Then I decided to change the second door as well and bought from hd. Same length, same color. HD springs were way under capacity. The door was lot harder to lift with hd springs.


Door should not be slamming shut. I think it means the springs were stretched out but also your opener is letting go at the end for some reason. Just guessing but stretched out spring was allowing the opener to accelerate?

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I'm not experienced at all but nobody is correcting you and I think you may be wrong. I've done a few single car width doors but not double width doors. Having said that, your door weighs 250 lbs (bath scale and ways of measuring could throw off this number). ?



He has 2 doors and 4 springs total. It's in the posts above but not easy to read.
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I am still reading a single 250 pound door with 2 springs on each side.

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I read over the posts twice and still not getting the sense that the op has 2 separate doors. Another thing is that I feel like I read a post like this in past. Each side of one door had 2 springs, possibly by previous owner who just added a second spring instead removing the old. I'm still not sure what the op means.
Also noticed that rjniles already said the thing about it should be one spring.


I think several people also caution the op about the safety line. OP: the safety line should be fastened to a hole in the bracket that is in straight line with the spring when it's stretched, so that the line doesn't interfere with spring movement. The line can be tied whichever way, just as long as the knot doesn't work itself loose. I had one spring break while I was at the door. If that break could have been fatal, I have about 5 lives left.
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I had a spring break and put a dent in my wife's car. I would not have liked to have been anywhere close. Shrapnel everywhere.

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You've probably got this done already but if not, make sure the door is up and the spring attaches without tension. once you get the door all the way up on the tracks, there should be very little gravitational force on the door. They recommend clamping the tracks with vice grips of propping each side with correct length board. The safety cable inside the spring is very important to include for safety as well.
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I read over the posts twice and still not getting the sense that the op has 2 separate doors. Another thing is that I feel like I read a post like this in past. Each side of one door had 2 springs, possibly by previous owner who just added a second spring instead removing the old. I'm still not sure what the op means.
Also noticed that rjniles already said the thing about it should be one spring.
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Double door, about 30 yrs old.
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