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Old 02-06-2019, 06:35 PM   #16
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You could have a concrete or wood header, that does look like a 2x6, what can you make of it outside?
Hard to tell theres other stuff over it. It scratches and flakes like some kind of concrete. Dont know if it's actually the foundation though like the rest
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Hard to tell theres other stuff over it. It scratches and flakes like some kind of concrete. Dont know if it's actually the foundation though like the rest
It could be a precast ledger and might look and feel different than the other concrete but could be the header.
Do the ends of the joists land above this window?
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Hard to tell theres other stuff over it. It scratches and flakes like some kind of concrete. Dont know if it's actually the foundation though like the rest
It could be a precast ledger and might look and feel different than the other concrete but could be the header.
Do the ends of the joists land above this window?
Yeah joists above. I can tell the main wood piece that sits on top of the foundation is above this piece. So maybe it is some kind of brick they mortar on top of the window to finish off the gap back in the day. Seems kind of weak. Not sure if its necessary. Would be nice to keep it though since the basement was already interior framed level with curren window position. If I took it out, which seems like I may have no choice if it crumbles, then I need to replace the gap with something or get a slightly taller window.

Joists above. Looking at the rest of the bssement
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I had these exact windows in my place in Chicago house built in 1959. I replaced them with side slider vinyl, excellent decision. I just removed the window of course and I went ahead and removed the metal frame as well and then framed the concrete opening with PT 1x and installed new window. So nice to open them so easily and they had screen, etc. Nice little upgrade to finished basement - do it !
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Yeah joists above. I can tell the main wood piece that sits on top of the foundation is above this piece. So maybe it is some kind of brick they mortar on top of the window to finish off the gap back in the day. Seems kind of weak. Not sure if its necessary. Would be nice to keep it though since the basement was already interior framed level with curren window position. If I took it out, which seems like I may have no choice if it crumbles, then I need to replace the gap with something or get a slightly taller window.

Joists above. Looking at the rest of the bssement
Could be anything.
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Could be anything.
I'm gunna rip them out and replace tomorrow. So if that top brick or whatever comes loose and I just have my main house wood there that's sits on top the foundation (whatever ya call it I'm not sure), can I just replace with wood to keep the window the same size/location? And if that's the right way to go, do I need to seal that wood all around somehow or just where the window meets it?

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I'm gunna rip them out and replace tomorrow. So if that top brick or whatever comes loose and I just have my main house wood there that's sits on top the foundation (whatever ya call it I'm not sure), can I just replace with wood to keep the window the same size/location? And if that's the right way to go, do I need to seal that wood all around somehow or just where the window meets it?
If you can get something in there tight, you don't want any air leaks.
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Think a 2x4 sufficient to fill gap above? Gearing up to get supplies and get started after work.
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I mean if it fits, if not I can cut a piece. Should I be using weather treated or normal stud wood is fine?
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I mean if it fits, if not I can cut a piece. Should I be using weather treated or normal stud wood is fine?
I think for the extra cost of one piece I would go for treated, at the least it would discourage termites.
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I replaced something almost exactly like that with a stock vinyl from Lowes and there are always custom sizes you can order at a higher price.


I used an angle grinder to cut the frame at the top and side center points and then just jacked it out of the slots in which it was only sitting. The window was dropped into the slots from the top before the floor deck went into place.


The nailing fins were removed from the top and bottom of the new window, side fins were trimmed and on a warm day it was possible to get them into the existing grooves.


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I'm interested in hearing what others have to say as I'm in a similar situation. My window frames are metal and the concrete appears to be poured around them.

To replace would also need to take out the 1/2" lip and was thinking the same, chisel and/or grinder with concrete blade. Then get a slightly smaller window and frame it out.
@HDS It sounds like you have a window buck, where this situation looks like a metal frame nailed to the concrete. A poured-in metal buck won't be coming out easily. Start a new thread with pics if you pursue it.
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Welp. The "winders" are in! The top lip ended up being a thin brick like layer in front of the rubber weather thing that comes out and down from under the siding. Wasnt too bad to remove it all. The top was easiest. It was hard to get my pry bar at a good spot with limited space because of the wall studs, but yeh got it done. A lot of careful chiseling and prying. I'd recommend a helper to give yourself a break. Really just had to chisel enough to be able to pry a bit around throughout the frame. The thick of it was on the sides. Cutting the top and bottom pieces in the middle with a sawsall helped even though I couldn't reach it all the way through it because of space.
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