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Old 02-16-2019, 07:06 AM   #16
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Re: Recessed Lights for vaulted ceiling


Hard to tell the difference between what @Nealtw ?
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Hard to tell the difference between what @Nealtw?
real can lights and these LEDS and most people with can light now or changing them to LEDs
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So you’re saying I should get these retrofits for the new construction instead of getting the whole assembly new construction system?
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So you’re saying I should get these retrofits for the new construction instead of getting the whole assembly new construction system?
I think over time it would be cheaper and less trouble just to use the ones that fit the 4" round box
I would say it is worth visiting a lighting shop and see for your self.
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What’s your opinion on these @Nealtw ? Still debating which lights to use. Those round lights that fit the 4” junction boxes are not meant to be 15’ height to illuminate.

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What’s your opinion on these @Nealtw? Still debating which lights to use. Those round lights that fit the 4” junction boxes are not meant to be 15’ height to illuminate.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Globe-El...1219/303240034
It seems there are watts, lumens and colours non of which I know anything about.
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It seems there are watts, lumens and colours non of which I know anything about.
Yeah, I just meant the design of the light. Slim with a small box and it will clip to drywall. Seems like the problem you guys have with recessed lights are the big enclosure that takes up space from insulation, correct?
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Seems like the problem you guys have with recessed lights are the big enclosure that takes up space from insulation, correct?
That's one of the issues. The other is that it's an air leak to a space that isn't usually vented well.

As far as the thin lights go, I was working on a project recently that used some HALO branded lights that were really thin and gave a great light with a very natural color. I wish I wrote down the exact model as I'd put them in my own house.
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Yeah, I just meant the design of the light. Slim with a small box and it will clip to drywall. Seems like the problem you guys have with recessed lights are the big enclosure that takes up space from insulation, correct?
Yes .
A friend had 20 ft ceilings in one room with 6 pot lights with 3 dead bulbs for years and when they were selling the house, they hired a guy who changed them all to LED and I could not tell the difference, other than they were working. That is why I thought it would be less trouble to start with LEDs
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What’s your opinion on these @Nealtw ? Still debating which lights to use. Those round lights that fit the 4” junction boxes are not meant to be 15’ height to illuminate.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Globe-El...1219/303240034



I think this would be about as good a option as you are going to get. Only thing better would be a complete surface mount option.
But this light should throw off very little to no heat, which is critical to preventing condensation on the cold roof deck. It also seals against the drywall to prevent air leakage. 700 lumans is not terribly bright, but equal to a 65 watt bulb while only drawing 13 watts of energy. There is also a no glare option to this light that may be of interest.
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I think this would be about as good a option as you are going to get. Only thing better would be a complete surface mount option.
But this light should throw off very little to no heat, which is critical to preventing condensation on the cold roof deck. It also seals against the drywall to prevent air leakage. 700 lumans is not terribly bright, but equal to a 65 watt bulb while only drawing 13 watts of energy. There is also a no glare option to this light that may be of interest.
I also figured I would use caulking when installing to seal between living space and vaulted ceiling insulation.

Just noticed they only come in 3k and I usually like my lights to be a little cooler.
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@Yodaman is this the way you’d go?
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@Yodaman is this the way you’d go?



Yes, I think so, for the reasons listed above. I might want the no glare option pending the height and direction of the installation. Would probably buy one of each to inspect prior to doing several.

However, one possible problem, without a rotating eyeball aiming it down, is the possibility of lights shinning directly into your eyes, since you will be mounting on a cathedral ceiling. Here again, think I would get a sample
and try to surface mount it on the ceiling to test.



Side note, I have a closet and a bath in my upper level bungalo with low cathedrals. I used track lighting in those rooms. Not sure I am completely happy with them, but it did solve the issue of several penetrations into the ceiling. They originally came with halogens and were hotter than heck, but I have since replaced them LEDS which solved the heat issue too.
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One thing to consider and it might not matter is do you want the light to be designed to follow the slope of the ceiling like these... so the bulb itself points straight down... vs the lights all essentially pointing the middle of the room...these are air tight and IC rated..


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07237QR5H..._JqvCCb1S08KDR

Need to put my glasses on.. Yodaman already mentioned the consideration of the direction of the light...

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I ordered the swivel model.

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