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I was going to buy a 250 gallon tank for a rain barrel then found out my parents have the same tanks but had roundup in them. Think it'd be ok to use if I rinse it out a few times. Maybe toss some borax or something in there.

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I was going to buy a 250 gallon tank for a rain barrel then found out my parents have the same tanks but had roundup in them. Think it'd be ok to use if I rinse it out a few times. Maybe toss some borax or something in there.

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Glyphosate binds strongly and rapidly to soil particles, and is degraded by soil microorganisms. After rinsing, fill with water and add a good amount of dirt. Alternatively, "paint" the tank's interior with mud.
This should make the tank safe for plant use.
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Glyphosate binds strongly and rapidly to soil particles, and is degraded by soil microorganisms. After rinsing, fill with water and add a good amount of dirt. Alternatively, "paint" the tank's interior with mud.
This should make the tank safe for plant use.
Thank you.

Would there be any worries of it permeating the plastic? My wife's really concerned.

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Would there be any worries of it permeating the plastic? My wife's really concerned.

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I can't see why a company would have used a permeable tank for their product.

Round-up contains detergents as surfactants. If you see no foaming after rinsing, you are good. You will likely never reach an effective dose of glyphosate in you rain water even if you don't rinse the tank.
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I can't see why a company would have used a permeable tank for their product.

Round-up contains detergents as surfactants. If you see no foaming after rinsing, you are good. You will likely never reach an effective dose of glyphosate in you rain water even if you don't rinse the tank.
That's what I was thinking. Just needed someone else to reassure her.

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I was going to buy a 250 gallon tank for a rain barrel then found out my parents have the same tanks but had roundup in them. Think it'd be ok to use if I rinse it out a few times. Maybe toss some borax or something in there.

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Absolutely not, do not even consider it, at all. I am really worried that your parents are using 250 gallons of roundup at a time as well.
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My first question is.

What do you plan to do with the collected water?

If for consumption, No way, would I ever drink this .

If watering flowers and grass, probably ok.

For a garden see above.

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Absolutely not, do not even consider it, at all. I am really worried that your parents are using 250 gallons of roundup at a time as well.
I respect your opinion on do-not-use the tank, and I am sure the original poster will consider it, but 250 gallons of round-up is not a large quantity in farming terms. Almost the entire crop of corn, cotton and soy in the US and elsewhere is treated with glyphosate. Apparently the parents did not use the 250 gallons to treat their lawn...
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My first question is.

What do you plan to do with the collected water?

If for consumption, No way, would I ever drink this .

If watering flowers and grass, probably ok.

For a garden see above.

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It is my understanding that the original poster's question was about collecting the water for garden use. For human consumption, as de-nagorg put it, NO!
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I respect your opinion on do-not-use the tank, and I am sure the original poster will consider it, but 250 gallons of round-up is not a large quantity in farming terms. Almost the entire crop of corn, cotton and soy in the US and elsewhere is treated with glyphosate. Apparently the parents did not use the 250 gallons to treat their lawn...
This is my point exactly, commercial applications of roundup are killing the soil. 250 gallons is a lot, and you're right in large scale farming applications it isn't much as other people use thousands of gallons. Not to mention that handling chemicals as well as prolonged exposure to chemicals will have a negative impact on your health. Monsanto is an awful corporation and I would never suggest supporting them, but I understand the predicament large scale farms are running into because they've relied on a chemical for so long that it is impossible to fix their soil and stop using roundup.
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Which is of course why I continue to search out locally grown produce where I know the farmers practice and buy organic when ever possible .
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This is my point exactly, commercial applications of roundup are killing the soil. 250 gallons is a lot, and you're right in large scale farming applications it isn't much as other people use thousands of gallons. Not to mention that handling chemicals as well as prolonged exposure to chemicals will have a negative impact on your health. Monsanto is an awful corporation and I would never suggest supporting them, but I understand the predicament large scale farms are running into because they've relied on a chemical for so long that it is impossible to fix their soil and stop using roundup.
I have a long family history in farming.

What you are saying - and the organic industry sources from which you are getting your information - is inaccurate.

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I was going to buy a 250 gallon tank for a rain barrel then found out my parents have the same tanks but had roundup in them. Think it'd be ok to use if I rinse it out a few times. Maybe toss some borax or something in there.
Glyphosate (RoundUp) dissipates rapidly, so there is probably no problem here.

However, if you are able, I would advise rinsing the tank thoroughly, then give it a test. Fill the tank with water (after you've rinsed it), then fill a bucket with the water that is in the tank. Spread that water over a grassy or weedy area you don't care about. See what happens. If the foliage wilts, you know you still have glyphosate in the tank. *Note that glyphosate typically takes a 7-10 days to kill foliage.
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