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Old 03-16-2019, 08:08 AM   #1
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Please ID this vine


Anyone recognize this vine? Located in New York.





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Old 03-16-2019, 08:23 AM   #2
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it looks like a member of the IVY family and is a very aggressive
climber. . . . . as it crawls up a building, the root feet grab very
tenaciously into the paint or finish and is almost impossible to remove
without leaving permanent tracks in the re-paint projects.
from past experience with it, I would never let it grow on a building again.
my personal advice is to remove it now - before it devours your building.
the remnants it leaves behind actually have to be removed with a chisel
or razor scraper.

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Old 03-16-2019, 08:26 AM   #3
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Looks like: http://cwf-fcf.org/en/resources/ency...a-creeper.html


Still making me itch just look at it because VA Creeper and poison IVY are closely related.
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First thought is that it is a wild grape... it will kill trees so it is not something to let run wild..
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English ivy. Virginia creeper has 5 leaves . Poison ivy has 3.

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English ivy. Virginia creeper has 5 leaves . Poison ivy has 3.

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Yeah, this looks like English Ivy. It's not poison ivy as I had this brush against my face and neck 2 days ago when I was clearing some of it out and I haven't experienced any itching since then.
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it looks like a member of the IVY family and is a very aggressive
climber. . . . . as it crawls up a building, the root feet grab very
tenaciously into the paint or finish and is almost impossible to remove
without leaving permanent tracks in the re-paint projects.
from past experience with it, I would never let it grow on a building again.
my personal advice is to remove it now - before it devours your building.
the remnants it leaves behind actually have to be removed with a chisel
or razor scraper.
Yeah, this stuff has a death grip on everything it grows on. I severed all the stems leading to the shed. Will waiting for the leaves to die make it easier to remove the stems attached to the shed walls and roof?

It's all over a nearby hemlock tree. From what I read, seems the best course of attack (or counterattack, since the ivy drew first blood) is to sever the stems a few inches off the ground, and leave the stems attached to the tree and let it die off, as opposed to pulling it off the tree trunk as that would also rip the bark off.

And use the severed stems leading to the ground to pull up the ivy to clear it away from the tree for several feet. And then I guess you just check for fresh growth every couple of weeks and rip that out? Eventually the roots will starve if it has no leaves to help nourish it?

Hopefully I can save the hemlock tree.


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After cutting the main stems, you can paint undiluted glyphosate (roundup) on the cut to help kill the roots. I usually pour some into a small jar and use a foam paint brush. You can also use this to paint chemical onto leaves of the plant you want to kill without spraying onto a plant you want to save.

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you may have a rude awakening when it comes to pulling
the dead vines off your buildings. even in death, this stuff
will not give up its grip.
best of luck !! keep us informed as to your progress.

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@jbrah , welcome to the forum!

Looks like you have Hedera, which is English Ivy. All of the comments about how bad it can be are true, including the difficulty in removing "holdfasts" that have attached to the sides of buildings.

It is tough to get rid of and you want to do it now, especially now that spring is here. Plant killing chemicals work best during the growing season.

If practical, try to physically rip out all you can and throw it away; don't put in the compost pile, where it will usually just re-grow. Rent a dumpster if you have to. The fewer the stems, the less resilient it will be.

Paint the stumps with straight glyphosate (Roundup, Kleenup) or trycofyr (Ortho Brush B Gon) and keep observing closely for regrowth; if (when) it occurs, re-treat. I recommend using the chemicals; if you don't like that, I understand, but sometimes a terrible disease requires some nasty medicine, and this is one of them. It might take a decade for the roots to starve fully. I say paint the [expletives].

Killing plants like this is a long war of attrition. If your immediate neighbors have it, you'll want them to get rid of it too. If they don't, you'll have an endless battle against re-invasion.

Be warned that a fully successful battle against something like this can be measured in months or years. Gird yourself, and get helpers if you need them.

Let us know how it goes, and what you end up doing. It will add to the body of knowledge we all share.
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Mine was va creeper with 5 leaves. Previous owners were getting old and left it to go wild. Killed one tree and on the way with another.

If you can wait, what I did was id the branches and start cutting anywhere I could see, including at the roots. Next year it was lot easier just pulling them off the trees. There were vines too high to reach. I left these hanging and by 3rd year, lot of it was rotting and probably eventually fall off by themselves.
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Bittersweet is nasty to get rid off so are mile-a-minute vines. Both of those drop thousands of seeds that birds love to spread.

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After cutting the main stems, you can paint undiluted glyphosate (roundup) on the cut to help kill the roots. I usually pour some into a small jar and use a foam paint brush. You can also use this to paint chemical onto leaves of the plant you want to kill without spraying onto a plant you want to save.

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The HUGE trouble with painting weedkiller on ivy is that the leaves are covered with wax which often repels the chemical. Others, like the Purple Morning Glory of Sorry on the Morning After (you plant it) will be killed or damaged by leaf sprays.

I know how hard it is to get rid of ivy because I have it. And, I've done a bad job of the follow up part. As in, I didn't pursue to the very ends of the Earth, till the end of my days if need be.

Tough stuff, be warned, all ya.

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Hmm. Maybe there IS an upside to monster vines! Maybe if you have enough of them, they'll hold the walls up in case of an earthquake.
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