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Old 07-07-2019, 02:15 PM   #16
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Re: using 1/4 drywall for ceiling


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You do want to make the top of the T about 1" lower than the unfinished ceiling so there are no issues removing it. It works well to hold up one side while you screw the other side, then you just walk your way over to fasten that side.
I actually make mine a bit longer than the ceiling height. That makes it easy to jam them up tight. They always snug up at a slight angle. I never had a problem kicking the bottom out and releasing them. Sometimes they come down on their own when the weight of the panel is removed by screwing it into the ceiling. But at that point I'm right there to catch it anyway.

I've tried with and without a brace on the bottom (an "I".) There is a risk of the panel swaying side-to-side without it, but that's pretty easy to control. I guess if you were using two poles, like in the video, using an "I" for the stationary one at the edge of the wall would make sense. I've never done that.
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Old 07-08-2019, 05:15 AM   #17
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I've never added a brace at the bottom. The T usually falls away as you work your way to that end of the board. I like a little leeway in the T's height in case there are any variances in the floor/ceiling .... but then it's not like I hang a lot a rock!
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Thanks for the responses, I'm going to try and get one of my kids to give me a hand. one area is just 4 feet wide, so I'm not sure if one of those sheet rock contraction will fit. will try the tee thing if my kid isn't available.
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In terms of fire rating, check local codes. You will need at least half inch SR.

Any home inspector could catch this and flag it.

Also, if there's humidity in the basement, the SR will sag over time.

It's not that much harder to work with 1/2 in SR, in some ways easier.
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Sometimes you have to give credit where credit is due.

I think this is one of those times.

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Old 07-10-2019, 05:26 PM   #21
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1/4" is never acceptable for a ceiling. Google USG Ultra light drywall. Up to 30% lighter than traditional 1/2" panels. Acceptable for up to 24" framing and water based texture (stipple or spray). The use of 5'8" is no longer necessary for ceilings (unless local codes require it.....).
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Hello all, I'm helping my cousin to fix up her sister's house so that she can sell it. this will be located in the basement area that surrounds her garage. I was contemplating about using 1/4 inch drywall for the ceiling since I'll be working by myself and figure the thinner stuff would be more manageable. I'm going to use 1/2 on the walls. any pro's and con's about this? Thanks
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Good thought woodco, but two people who don't know what they're doing isn't necessarily a good thing. Maybe find a qualified drywall hanger who is willing to work for a day and use the OP as a helper. He will learn.....
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Thats definitely a better idea...
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In terms of fire rating, check local codes. You will need at least half inch SR.

Any home inspector could catch this and flag it.

Also, if there's humidity in the basement, the SR will sag over time.

It's not that much harder to work with 1/2 in SR, in some ways easier.
Heres a question: If its already an open ceiling, and Ive seen plenty of open ceilings in basements, why would there need to be a fire rating for sheetrock? Or, is open ceilings against code nowadays?
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I don't think basements need firecode rock. At least I've never seen it around here. If they do in some areas, maybe the thinking is that once you finish the basement, there's more chance of fire..... Or maybe 5/8" rock is required on the ceiling (for sag resistance) and most people assume it's got to be fire rated. I guess they still make 5/8" non-fire rated rock. Haven't had the need for it in years. I know they used to make it. Some counties around here require firecode for "drive under" garages on ceiling and "party wall" to the house. Many don't.
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I don't think basements need firecode rock. At least I've never seen it around here. If they do in some areas, maybe the thinking is that once you finish the basement, there's more chance of fire..... Or maybe 5/8" rock is required on the ceiling (for sag resistance) and most people assume it's got to be fire rated. I guess they still make 5/8" non-fire rated rock. Haven't had the need for it in years. I know they used to make it. Some counties around here require firecode for "drive under" garages on ceiling and "party wall" to the house. Many don't.
Some places call for it to be done in new houses when it has engineered I joist floor.
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The reason you don't use 1/4" drywall, that for some reason no one has mentioned yet, is that it tends to sag. Using 2 layers of 1/4" doesn't really help that situation. It's simply not strong enough. By the time you glued it together with enough glue to really strengthen it, you will have spent more money and time than using 1/2" with a lift to begin with.
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Thanks for all the responses. Ended up using the 1/2 inch sheetrock for the ceiling and getting my kids to help. Just have to get them coordinated when lifting. it's amazing how this younger generation lack's the stamina that I had when I was their age. hopefully I'll get this done before I get any older.
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