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Old 02-27-2019, 03:35 PM   #16
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Nails are fine, nothing wrong with that as long as the heads are large enough to not pull thru the wood. I would not use nails on cheap particle board cabinets, only on solid wood cabinets. Nails have tensile strength, only special screws have tensile strength, and they are mighty costly.


I have known folks that used 3/4" plywood to line the studs behind the sheetrock for easy installation of cabinets. Nothing wrong with that either. Allows one to use more fasteners. But I would not use OSB for anything in my house, or garage, or workshop.


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Nails are fine, nothing wrong with that as long as...


...But I would not use OSB for anything in my house, or garage, or workshop.
So let me get this straight, you'd be ok with nails for cabinets even though they have little pull out resistance, but you'd never settle for OSB anywhere?
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Drywall screws are only for drywall, nothing else.
Even if they can screw and work on something else, if someone sees them, they'll think you're a hack.

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Nails are fine, nothing wrong with that as long as the heads are large enough to not pull thru the wood. I would not use nails on cheap particle board cabinets, only on solid wood cabinets. Nails have tensile strength, only special screws have tensile strength, and they are mighty costly.

Tensile strength is not the issue with cabinets. Pull out strength is the issue. This is why you use cabinet screws with cabinets. You don't need the "special screws" - those are used for structural carpentry where tensile strength is needed, not cabinets.

FYI to the OP, cabinet screws are specialty screws, basically pan head screws (which is the design you want) with particularly wide heads, that work well with the inside materials on any cabinet, including cabinets made with particle board (which is not ideal, but cabinet screws are the ideal screw for them).

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Wood screws or deck screws as long as they are long enough to secure the cabinet to the stud/blocking are fine. The reason you shouldn't use drywall screws is they are brittle and could snap.

Additionally they have the wrong head design. They are meant for countersinking into soft drywall, where they can sit flush or below the surface. You don't want a screw to countersink into cabinet structure, you want a wide pan head design, and they don't need to be flush.
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I built my cabinets about 17 yrs ago and installed the uppers with deck screws. I haven't had any issues. Not saying that is the right way to do it [I'm just a painter] but deck screws have worked fine for me.
And you probably used REAL plywood or wood backs - not some 1/4" paperboard backed with a 3/8" upper and lower nailer made from something we used to call cardboard...

Yup - you could have hung those good puppies with nails, screws or even bolts driven into the studs with a hammer! Oh, yeah, the screws where made like "real men" back then, also!

Alas - I remember the days when I couldn't twist the head off a bolt using my short 3/8 drive ratchet - not today - they just seems to pop off (especially from the big "L" company - don't know where they get their steel from...)
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you probably used REAL plywood or wood backs - not some 1/4" paperboard backed with a 3/8" upper and lower nailer made from something we used to call cardboard

That is one of the reasons I built my own. All plywood or dimensional lumber! The cost was cheaper than the cheapest box cabinets and I expect them to last longer than me. If I had bought cheap cabinets I suspect they'd be close to needing replacing by now.
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