Drywall Installation-Finishing-Texturing tips - Page 2 - DIY Chatroom

Sir MixAlot · 06-29-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HABSFAN2006

Question for ya... what is the advantage of placing mud in a straight line covering all screws in that specific grid, as opposed to two or three different patches of mud? I noticed some people do this..
is it to trick the eye and eliminate the "patch look" of different mud locations? Seems like more mud than is needed... Speed. It's one motion for multple fasteners. Instead of one motion for each fastener. Which turns into alot of time saved on large job.
also, is it better to have them vertical up/down on a wall application? I think vertical is more of a natural motion.
I have successfully done the patch methode before & primed/painted with good results... Both way's are fine.

Hope this helps.

HABSFAN2006 · 06-29-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir MixAlot

Hope this helps.

great, thanks! I can imagine you could save some time for sure.

bjbatlanta · 06-30-2009, 12:00 PM

Yep, say if you're using screws spaced every 8" or so it's much faster to "swipe" them vertically. If you're gluing and nailing with one set of nails in the field, it's easier to just spot the individual set than "swipe" across several studs horizontally.

Sir MixAlot · 06-30-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HABSFAN2006

great, thanks! I can imagine you could save some time for sure.

And saving time = $$$$$$$$$

HABSFAN2006 · 06-30-2009, 03:18 PM

Although I am only a diy'er, I have worked on 4 basement projects and gaining much skill / experience with drywall and pulling joints, but I always like to work like the pro's work.. use the tools, materials, they use, and methods they use... I know the guys that did my home at construction did not use a corner trowel, and insisted on applying mud to one side at a time in corners to allow faster drying and finish the next day.
I am not a fan of corner trowels as they are not wide enough for finishing coats anyways.
Do you guys use them?

gregezzell · 07-03-2009, 07:58 PM

I'm installing a large sheetrock ceiling and was wondering if I should cut Vs in the end of the sheetrock for butt joints before I apply mud and tape? Any words of wisdom?

HABSFAN2006 · 07-05-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gregezzell

I'm installing a large sheetrock ceiling and was wondering if I should cut Vs in the end of the sheetrock for butt joints before I apply mud and tape? Any words of wisdom?

No weld prep. required,

just butt up, and use as is. the proper amount of screws ensures no movement/no cracks.

riftsawn · 07-06-2009, 06:53 PM

How flat is flat enough when it comes to residential drywall finishing? I know that is probably a bit of an ambiguous question dependent on level of finish texture etc.. But for example with a orange peel or knockdown texture is 1/8 of variation over 6 feet for example going to be noticeable to an average person, what about 4 or 2 feet?

HABSFAN2006 · 07-06-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by riftsawn

How flat is flat enough when it comes to residential drywall finishing? I know that is probably a bit of an ambiguous question dependent on level of finish texture etc.. But for example with a orange peel or knockdown texture is 1/8 of variation over 6 feet for example going to be noticeable to an average person, what about 4 or 2 feet?

It will not be visible to most... and surely should not be measured... some say use a 10" knife and no light should be seen at any point when slide across the joint. Then again, what might be acceptable for some, might not be for others.... I would say have at it, throw yourself into it, with small coats. It is better to apply 3, or 4, or 5 small coats, then one or two big coats. You can always add very easily..... It becomes a pain to remove,

have fun!

oldrivers · 07-08-2009, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by HABSFAN2006

Although I am only a diy'er, I have worked on 4 basement projects and gaining much skill / experience with drywall and pulling joints, but I always like to work like the pro's work.. use the tools, materials, they use, and methods they use... I know the guys that did my home at construction did not use a corner trowel, and insisted on applying mud to one side at a time in corners to allow faster drying and finish the next day.
I am not a fan of corner trowels as they are not wide enough for finishing coats anyways.
Do you guys use them?

A corner trowel can be tricky to use probably not recommended for a DIYER as it takes awhile to get he hang of them. however if they are mastered they can work very well and save time by coating both sides at the same time you can touch up both sides the next day if need be. you only really need to coat angles 4 to 5 inches wide when coating with hand type tools. these corner trowels can also create more work if you dont know what to look for when using them. a DIYER i recomend a 5 inch knife and do 1 side at a time..

oldrivers · 07-08-2009, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gregezzell

I'm installing a large sheetrock ceiling and was wondering if I should cut Vs in the end of the sheetrock for butt joints before I apply mud and tape? Any words of wisdom?

i myself find that by the time drywall is delivered and hung it gets beat up alot espessially on the edges. i always take a knife and cut small vees on the ends" buttjoints" just to cut off any loose paper and then i prefill with setting muds prior to taping ,this repairs any damage that was casued by handling and it also makes the seems stronger in the end. not neccesarily needed but its a good insurance against blisters etc. alot of times stocking drywall in basements and other hard to access areas puts alot of damage on the rock because it gets draged scraped etc. a visual inspection should tell you if any extra measures need to be taken before taping.

Sir MixAlot · 07-10-2009, 09:19 PM

HABSFAN2006, I took some pics w/ my cell phone of the corner tool in action. I think the corners turn out much better with it than the mud one side at a time method.

garyweisman · 07-11-2009, 09:23 PM

I am installing new drywall in a seasonal house. I am hoping to find a solution to the problem of drywall tape coming of the walls in a small house that is left unheated in upstate ny (lows of 20 below). is a setting compound the way to go, or mixing plaster of paris in with the joint compound?

HABSFAN2006 · 07-12-2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir MixAlot

HABSFAN2006, I took some pics w/ my cell phone of the corner tool in action. I think the corners turn out much better with it than the mud one side at a time method.

Thanks for the pics, and I do hope there is enough mud under and over to permanently hold that paper in! But I generaly am not pressed for time, so I will ad a bit mroe than that, also, I would use a 5 or 6" nife, so not as long as that 10". What i meant was mostly finishing coats. Pros might get away with using on three coats... but my second and third coat always go pas the 3" of a corner trowel... on the upsides, I am content with my finished corners... it's a great tool though.

Sir MixAlot · 07-13-2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by HABSFAN2006

I do hope there is enough mud under and over to permanently hold that paper in! But I generaly am not pressed for time, so I will ad a bit mroe than that, also, I would use a 5 or 6" nife, so not as long as that 10". What i meant was mostly finishing coats. Pros might get away with using on three coats... but my second and third coat always go pas the 3" of a corner trowel... on the upsides, I am content with my finished corners... it's a great tool though.

Oh there is plenty of mud there to bed the tape. The pic was taken before the mud was ran out with the corner tool.
Let's see some of your pics.