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Old 11-10-2009, 10:40 AM   #31
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It seems that way. They've no product - field trials might begin in Q3 10 if they raise the money to build a handful of units - and their competitors (Baxi, Honda, Ceres) have already received orders and have started installations. So I guess they have nothing to offer and with no money in the bank and a dog of a shareprice, they're unlikely to raise the money to finish development.

Oh Lucy, you got some 'splainin to do.


just as an explanation for Lucy, if she ever decides to return: that is a line from an old television show where the husband was Cuban and spoke with a heavy accent. When his wife, Lucy, did something dumb (which was pretty much every episode), Ricky (the husband) would say, "Lucy, you got some 'splainin to do" and everybody would know that was a queue to laugh.

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Oh Lucy, you got some 'splainin to do.


just as an explanation for Lucy, if she ever decides to return: that is a line from an old television show where the husband was Cuban and spoke with a heavy accent. When his wife, Lucy, did something dumb (which was pretty much every episode), Ricky (the husband) would say, "Lucy, you got some 'splainin to do" and everybody would know that was a queue to laugh.
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I think we can assume Lucy has Gone - if they've no money in the bank, they can't meet payroll. Have you checked out the carbon calculator on their website? It's amazing bu....hit, but hat's off for the thought. The product doesn't exist, hasn't even been in field trials, but Disenco claim you can save big time by buying the appliance NOW! You'd have to have your brain checked if you invest in this dog.
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I think we can assume Lucy has Gone - if they've no money in the bank, they can't meet payroll. Have you checked out the carbon calculator on their website? It's amazing bu....hit, but hat's off for the thought. The product doesn't exist, hasn't even been in field trials, but Disenco claim you can save big time by buying the appliance NOW! You'd have to have your brain checked if you invest in this dog.
Oh, I know. I just figured if she ever happened to cruise by maybe she would see the Americans aren't quite as gullible as she would have liked them to be. At least not all of them.
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I am just looking into installing Solar Electric panels, mainly (selfishly for money reasons) but as a bonus for green reasons. It's a large investment but should make me very good in the future.
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I am just looking into installing Solar Electric panels, mainly (selfishly for money reasons) but as a bonus for green reasons. It's a large investment but should make me very good in the future.
LOL, would the money reason be that you have too much money and need to get rid of it?

Seriously, there are very few locations where solar PV panels have a payback period at all. They are generally done for "green" reasons recognizing that the power will cost more than grid power or they are done in remote areas requiring low power where grid power is not economically available.

If you are in it to save money then do your calculations very carefully.
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Solar panels at present have a 30% "rebate" from the Government
In many cases there are additional rebates from State & sellers may offer deals with today economy
In most cases you are far better off trying to reduce your power use before buying Solar
"Payback" /break even depends upon your cost for electricity
One person in New York will have a payback period of 2.5 years - he installed the system himself
He "saves" about $110 a month - old electric bill was averaged at $260 a month
Our electric prices dropped, but I will be looking into adding solar once other construction costs on the house are paid off
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Remember the 3 to 5 rule: for every $3 you spend on energy conservation you will save about $5 on a PV system. If you want to "go solar" you should start w/ a solar air heater.
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Smart decision Mandylee. Company has no product, no money to develop it, no future. A dog.
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Looks like lights out time for Disenco. Shareprice at historic low of 4.5 cents (DIS.V on TSX) and dropping.
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We are very much still here!

As previously stated please could Nap call Alan Dale on +44 114 261 5180.

If anyone has any serious questions and would like to talk to any member of the team please feel free to do so.
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could you explain the horrific financial status reports and the claim of fielding units and then in the same article not having actually built any units?

We have seen enough companies die lately that many of us recognize the picture of a company in the throws of death. Yours surely looks to be in serious difficulty at the least.

have you or have you not actually built any units? Have you or have you not fielded any units?
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Nap, like I have asked previously- please call the company, or if you would prefer we could call you. Alan Dale can explain to you the financial situation of the company, so that you don’t have to further speculate and I would be happy to personally explain to you the current global economic problems.

Any claim that we have not built any units is factually incorrect, our doors are always open should anyone wish to view a field trial.

As for these field trails, our appliance was initially on trail with the Carbon Trust back in 2007 and the data was independently verified by EA Technology, based in Chester, UK.

So to answer your questions in simple terms, yes we have built appliance and yes they have been tested in the field.

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Then how about some real information on the product? There have been several questions posed on this thread and none have been answered. Since there have been field trials, there should be data available to be utilized to form an answer.

Do you have anything other than a plea to contact some other person in the company? You came here and presented your product. When asked anything about it, you failed to be able to provide any answers. 1 1/2 months ago you had not even built any units yet now you claim not only have you built units but they have been field tested.

So, how about some actual facts, specs, and results of the tests?
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Because the Disenco HomePowerPlant is a new technology and to protect this product I am limited to what information can be published on this website.

If individuals would like further information then they are required to complete a NDA. I have stated on numerous occasions that we are happy to answer questions.

The data we have is very sensitive, hence the reason why I have failed to answer some questions. On completion of a NDA more information will be readily available.

Please read the following publican that the Carbon Trust has wrote, http://www.carbontrust.co.uk/publications/publicationdetail?productid=CTC726.

Basic product information can be found on our website, www.disenco.com

You say 1 months ago we had not built any units- this is incorrect.

So how about you contact the company, rather than hiding on a website.
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and why would any more information be available to me if I contact you than you can present on a website. You are the one that came here touting your product like it is ready to be put in my house yet now you want me to agree to some non-disclosure agreement so you can tell me about it?




sounds like a crock of crap to me.


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You say 1 months ago we had not built any units- this is incorrect.
this is from your own website:

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January 2008: Initial testing of low volume pre-production HPP engine
April 2008: Sentec production design of electronics and power controls commences
May 2008: Enertek commence boiler build out and burner commercialisation of the HPP
November 2009: Low volume production engine endurance testing to commence
Q2 2010 (funding dependant): Initial production process to commence with assembly / production / manufacturing with sub contractors Autocraft and Malvern Boilers, producing first commercial HomePowerPlant appliances for UK and EU field trials by utilities
so, from that statement, you only have prototypes. A prototype is not a unit intended for commercial sale hence, no units built yet. Even those units referred to are designated for field trials by utility companies. That is not a market ready unit still.
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Disenco is currently in discussions with a number of potential manufacturing/production/distribution partners world-wide that would bring Disenco immediate marketing, promotion and distribution resources.
that is BS corporate talk for: we do not have a product manufacturing facility yet but we are talking to a bunch of them trying to find one.

So, either you have a marketed product or you don't. To this point it appears you do not. If I am wrong, please post a link to a copy of your sales literature for your currently marketed product(s) and a wholesaler or retailer they are available for purchase.

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