Where do I begin?

oberkc · 12-02-2010, 01:31 PM

In response to an earlier post, I understand that shingles are your primary defense. Roofing felt/tar paper is there in case shingles fail.

Regarding your estimate, it does not explicitly state to remove the old roof, but I suspect that is part of the plan. I would make sure that it is. You may want to address the potential repair of roof decking, should such repair be necessary.

1910NE · 12-02-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Leaky

Hello all, Just had another guy come in give me a estimate,

He said he would do the whole top roof (17 squares by his calculations) for 5000.

He also listed what he would do.

Clean up and haul,

GAF 30 year shingles (timberline high definition shingles).

Tar paper

Roll vent (new)

New ridge vent and drop edge

new ice water shield

2 new 3" roof boots (previous ones were not installed properly)

We would pay half upfront, and half after the work is finished.

The company has been around for 28 years, (Di Bello's in the Pocono area)
and that he would guarantee any work done by him (not sure if he meant in writing) and he said as long as he is in business he will have someone come and fix it.

He also said he would fix just the sliding shingles for 500 dollars (they are sliding in several place on one half of the roof) and that that might be a wise idea , and that next summer we could see if any more shingles are sliding and make a decision then.

Can youg guys think of anything else that I should ask him, or if he is not including something here.

Thank you.

it appears that he quoted the job with a tear off and replace, which is a good idea, considering the apparent condition of your existing roof. putting a new layer over the old is a short term money saver, but it will shorten the life of the shingles (and any warranty.) make sure everyone is on the same page regarding "found condition" so there are no surprises.

it would be a good idea to get two more quotes to compare.

and get it all in writing before you sign the check.

Joe F · 12-02-2010, 02:45 PM

I'd add drip edge and ice & water shield to the estimate.

OldNBroken · 12-02-2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Slyfox

Excuse my ignorance and I'm surely not trying to change the subject, but,
where do you guys get 15 year shingles?

Mine too Sly...I was wondering the same thing.

Best of luck Leaky. See, it's not as disastrous as you originally thought. At least you have a small house.

Octopus · 12-03-2010, 01:06 AM

Why is he reccomending to tear it off? Presently one layer correct? Most jurisdictions allow up to 3 layers of asphalt composition roof before the weight becomes a liability. You are from $15,000 to $5,000 now. No tear off and you should do even better

Leaky · 12-03-2010, 01:21 AM

Thanks for the replies guys, seriously.

So far I got quotes from 2 guys.

One guy said he would repair(as in replace the shingles ) the 8 by 12 foot area for 500 , the other 950. Same materials. That coveres the area where the shingles are sliding down, there are no other shingles that are visibly sliding down aside from this area.

I also have some minor leaking in the ridge area, pretty much 25 feet across.

The 500 dollar guy didnt want to give me a quote on that but he assured me that when he is up there he will look at the problem and fix it.

Could this water up in the ridge be just the wind pushing the water up through the shingles where they were damaged? We did have very heavy wind the night of the storm.

most of the ridge plancs were just damp (at the very top of the V) but a couple were wet , but not dripping wet... Like dew collected on a window, maybe a little more.

Can you guys advise on that.

Thank you again.

Leaky · 12-03-2010, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Octopus

Why is he reccomending to tear it off? Presently one layer correct? Most jurisdictions allow up to 3 layers of asphalt composition roof before the weight becomes a liability. You are from $15,000 to $5,000 now. No tear off and you should do even better

I was told that putting in a new roof after that would be more expensive with 2 layers and that it hits home value (not that i am planning to sell any time soon).

And after the last quote its down to 4800, which I may well be doing come next summer (or earlier if replacement of the 8 by 12 area fails/leaks again).

Leaky · 12-03-2010, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe F

I'd add drip edge and ice & water shield to the estimate.

Sorry if I didn't list that earlier, but that was included in the quote.

1910NE · 12-03-2010, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Octopus

Why is he reccomending to tear it off? Presently one layer correct? Most jurisdictions allow up to 3 layers of asphalt composition roof before the weight becomes a liability. You are from $15,000 to $5,000 now. No tear off and you should do even better

even "IF" local code allows this, it is a sure way to void the warranty on the shingles.

Slyfox · 12-03-2010, 07:43 AM

I don't believe a lay-over is an option here 'IMO'.
You have already found multiple issues and atleast two of them found thus far point toward poor/lacking in experience workmanship of the original roofers.
So who knows what they did or did not do properly when installing wall flashing's, valley's, chimney flashing's, etc.

If the money is an issue, repair it now, re-roof it next Spring/Summer.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying layovers don't work, they do when installed properly.
Shingle manufacturers not only honor their warranty on layovers, if you call them or go to their website you can get installation specifications on how to install shingles on a layover.