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Old 06-27-2012, 09:13 AM   #16
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Whats causing rain to go back up into the soffits


My money goes on the shingles being laid with no overhang.

I see this all the time on store bought sheds, they never have an over hang so they do not blow off going down the road, the bottom edges alway rot out after a few years.
Also lift the top layer of shingles to make sure they used a starter cource of shingles. (first row gets one tab cut off and is installed upside down so the tabs on the first row do not leave bare wood exposed)

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Old 06-27-2012, 09:25 AM   #17
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Realy kind of hard to see in those pics but, does your drip edge have a small overhang like in this picture?...


I would also suspect capilary action drawing the water back under the overhang too. The little kickout on the dripedge looks almost flat in some sections. That could be bent out a little to "kick" the water away.
they definitely dont have an over hang like the one you attached, which I thought was odd as well
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:28 AM   #18
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How did the room flood? From the water getting in from above? Or from it puddling on the ground below?
I can see wet spots where the ceiling and wall met going down about a foot or so... then its all dry from there...

until the floor, but even the wall a few inches above the floor is dry...
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I second the question about the shingle overhang. There has to be enough angle and length to allow gravity to overcome surface tension and allow the water to fall. Perhaps new edge and some gutters is the best course of action.
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I second the question about the shingle overhang. There has to be enough angle and length to allow gravity to overcome surface tension and allow the water to fall. Perhaps new edge and some gutters is the best course of action.
Thanx, that what Ive been gathering so far...
seems like I have a fairly simply fix, probably just get a new drip edge it...

now I just need to figure out how much water damage I have...

think Im going to try and pull up my floors tonight with minimal damage so I can reuse them....

thanx again for every ones advice
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Get a fan in there and start blowing a lot of fresh air around the space. Moisture is the enemy here, and mold isn't far behind it. Consider that your homeowners policy may cover calling in the professionals (like ServePro) to deal with this. Yes, it'd be messy but cracking open the drywall to air it out may be the best plan. Better to have to deal with some drywall and paint work now, versus health issues from mold AND the same drywall and paint work later.
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Remove the base boards and make a cut just below where the base boards were sitting and remove all that sheetrock asap.
Start running a dehumidifier ASAP.
That about all Servpro or any other damage control companys going to do and be far cheaper.
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I'm going to disagree with everyone here. I can't as much water as indicated making it's way inside from the drip edge or from the wall. If you look closely you can see that there isn't much water at the wall, and there is a sheet of water coming out the lower piece of metal under the drip edge, which says to me it is getting in from under the shingles.

If you could get a picture of that upper valley, that would be great. I'm guessing A) there is an issue at the bottom of the valley or B) the valley is closed cut, but the cut was done on the lower roof instead of the upper.

Edit: another point, oveerhang is typically created by extending the top chord of the truss, meaning the drip edge would be lower than the ceiling height. The soffit was most likely built after the wall below was sheathed. Not to way water isn't getting in at the drip edge and possibly rotting out the fascia, but it wouldn't be going anywhere near the interior.

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thanx for all the advise...
we dont have any more rain headed are way at the moment, and I should have two roof companies coming by in the next week hopefully to look it over...

now I need to figure out what to do about my laminate flooring, which I will post in the proper section
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Also check to see if the sofit is level, if it's low at the house, that can cause the water to wick back to the house, seen it happen before, always keep the facia metal a little low so that don't happen.
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got up on the ladder today, Soffit looked pretty level...
I attached a few more pics to see if the extra detail helps out at all
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Yep. DE catching the water. The shingles change angle in the last inch because the DE is sitting level.
Further investigation will probably show it's nailed on top of the fascia. Idiot carpenters nowadays think they're saving something by stopping the sheathing somewhere behind the fascia. It's supposed to run 1/2" to 3/4" over the fascia.
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And though MD roofing policies defy everything a roofer knows, that wall doesn't appear to be leaking. I don't see in any staining under the soffitt at the wall in the last pic.
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so if I follow:
-the water under the soffits should be fixed, but its not my issue
-the issue is the last 1-2" of the roof has a slight bend back upwards causing the water to puddle a little instead of running off freely?

is that correct?
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That and your shingles do not overhang your eave.
Also there may not be (probably isn't) ice and water guard at the bottom of the roof under the shingles and on top of your roof edge flashing.

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