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Old 08-05-2011, 06:33 PM   #16
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Well this is easy enough to type out as its really short


Remove existing shingles. Replace 30# felt as needed. Apply 30 year Dimensional shingles. Complete all flashings, vents, pipe boots as necessary. Haul away all debris. Aprox 32 square -2 layer tear off-12/12 Cost $10,650.00
Project cost $10,650,00

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Old 08-05-2011, 06:42 PM   #17
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2 layers??!!!!!!???

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Remove existing shingles. Replace 30# felt as needed. Apply 30 year Dimensional shingles. Complete all flashings, vents, pipe boots as necessary. Haul away all debris. Aprox 32 square -2 layer tear off-12/12 Cost $10,650.00
Project cost $10,650,00
Nothing right about it.Hey MJW how do you complete flashings????,,Wait they put in "As necessary" Hahahahahahaha,,,,

I would NOT hire them for the simple fact the CORRECT terminology is LIMITED LIFETIME !!!!

To the OP that is very vague.IMO its too vague.

Anything about the brand of shingle offered?

Anything about the size of the pipe flashings?

Anything about the brand of vents replaced?

Anything about the fasteners being used ? (size)

Anything about how many fasteners are required for your roof pitch?

Anything about extra charge for decking replacement if replaced ?

Anything about a valley underlayment?

Anything about the type of valley installed?

Anything about a workmanship warranty?

Does the estimate have a professional company logo?

Is your estimate a type from Office Max?

Any mention of lien waivers from suppliers?

Any mention of licensing?,,Insurance?,,,Bond?

Any offers of providing references from recent customers?

Any offer to show a portfolio containing workmanship photo's?

Any mention of safety protocol?

Any mention of the revised job site and fall restraint requirements by OSHA?

Anything about protecting your property from falling debris?

I think you see where all this is going.

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Wayyyyy Too Vague and open to anyones interpretation.

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Just the estimate number alone speaks volumes.
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Im guessing that just an estimate sheet?? That wouldn't make a good contract since there is nowhere to sign.... Let alone some of the reasons before mentioned.
Get other bids and please post.. This will be close to the low bid and I bet the bidding doesn't go higher then 20k .. I would even say 16-17.. but there is some high bidders in here.. lol
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Im guessing that just an estimate sheet?? That wouldn't make a good contract since there is nowhere to sign.... Let alone some of the reasons before mentioned.
Get other bids and please post.. This will be close to the low bid and I bet the bidding doesn't go higher then 20k .. I would even say 16-17.. but there is some high bidders in here.. lol
I have called 6 other roofig companies. They are all supposed to be out before September. Ill post their quotes as well.
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I am more than willing to bet my wifes dog that your next group will be considerably higher.

Remember just because you have a really high bid that won't guaranty a top notch job.

But then again neither will choosing the lowest in hopes of saving in the long run.

More times than not it costs you in the end.
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Remember just because you have a really high bid that won't guaranty a top notch job.
Hey that was my line..
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Really a worthless proposal and the contract may have other "loop-holes". The "as needed" is determined by the man that eventually gets on the job and it is up to him to determine what is needed and extra cost for anything else. It is a proposal written to trap an unknowing buyer that is already on the hook and the contractor can file a lien if he is not paid.

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I had a company out on Thursday, and am waiting for that estimate to be mailed out and another company is coming out today. They have all said i do not need to be home for the inspection nor the estimate.

But before work can be done I will sit down and go over the estimate and get a solid number. I dont want to nickeled and dimed to death. But i also want the work done right the first time too.
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I have been asked by customers if they needed to be home for my inspection.

I have always (When possible) made the appointment for when they were home.Mandatory?,, No,,,,but I prefer putting a face behind the proposal.

An appointment when the (Possible) customer is present has many advantages.IMO

It gives the contractor the opportunity to explain any findings pertaining to roof issues.It also allows the contractor to show extensive roofing knowledge as well as professionalism.

IMO an appointment with the (Possible) customer present sets you apart from the competition.

The contractor can show much more than a proposal in the mailbox or inside the screen door.
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I called another roofer Lastnight and they will be out today and insisted that i be present before they would come, so thats looking better. They worked around be and will be at the house at 5 pm, after i get off work. So im already liking these guys much better then the last company.
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I had two roofers out lastnight.

First roofer said He is going to have to get a satalight photo of my roof to take the measurements because its too steep. He was saying that the safest you can walk is a 8 or 9 roof and mine is double that. But the good news is what he was able to look at has Hail damage that is extensive enough that insurance may help out. I should have his quote Friday or Monday. He also said they will have to use harnesses and walking nail strips on the roof.

The Second roofer came out and his ladder was too short at 22 ft. He was able to look at the valleys and said i am having 5 out of 6 nail pops per shingle. And i have little to no gravel left on those shingles. He is coming back on Friday afternoon or Saturday morning.

I also have another roofer coming out today, and shouls get a quote from a previous roofer today as well......

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