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01-30-2012, 11:07 PM
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- Allow a minimum of 1/8” spacing between ends and edges of panels.
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One of the things we brought up months ago was that there might not be the proper spacing between the 4 foot edges of the boards. Our home inspector ventured that as a guess. We shared this with the builder, and the builder contacted the company that makes solarbord, and this is the company's response.
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01-30-2012, 11:24 PM
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One of the things we brought up months ago was that there might not be the proper spacing between the 4 foot edges of the boards. Our home inspector ventured that as a guess. We shared this with the builder, and the builder contacted the company that makes solarbord, and this is the company's response.
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I agree that the performance of the product hasn't been compromised....
the appearance of the builders product most certainly has.
Cases like this burn my BVDs because regardless of price, many framers don't take the time to read product literature or follow guidelines.
It's fast as hell to drop and blast down sheets when no care is given to spacing. I've been guilty of it myself before I knew any better. I was taught the wrong way.
People look at framers as unskilled tradesmen and many of them are.
That's a damn shame for the ones who truly see it as an art and spend many years honing their craft to become talented craftsmen.
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01-30-2012, 11:46 PM
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I am reluctant to think this is a spacing issue.
Although, this is a product that I have never worked with before.
Has anyone used this type of sheathing?
I think everyone should look at the framing pics once more. There is living space with only a 2x6 between it and the roof sheathing....and can lights.......... or maybe I am seeing something wrong.....
This "cool roof" sheathing could be the culprit altogether by itself.
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01-31-2012, 12:02 AM
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I am reluctant to think this is a spacing issue.
Although, this is a product that I have never worked with before.
Has anyone used this type of sheathing?
I think everyone should look at the framing pics once more. There is living space with only a 2x6 between it and the roof sheathing....and can lights.......... or maybe I am seeing something wrong.....
This "cool roof" sheathing could be the culprit altogether by itself.
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Another pic - a bit more close-up.
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01-31-2012, 12:04 AM
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I haven't even mentioned the major water leak we had during construction. This is what it looked like after it had dried out for a day and a half...
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01-31-2012, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MJW
I am reluctant to think this is a spacing issue.
Although, this is a product that I have never worked with before.
Has anyone used this type of sheathing?
I think everyone should look at the framing pics once more. There is living space with only a 2x6 between it and the roof sheathing....and can lights.......... or maybe I am seeing something wrong.....
This "cool roof" sheathing could be the culprit altogether by itself.
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In those framing pics, I don't see any rafters smaller than a 2x10, unless I'm losing my eyes...
That being said, I think the sheathing product could be the culprit as well.
There's just too many variables that come into play to know for sure.
One thing I know without a question in my mind and that is this. I've seen what happens when improperly spaced sheets are wetted and expand and it looks exactly like those pics.
I'm seriously suspicious of those foil backed panels, but without a history of product complaints, it's hard to point a finger that direction.
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01-31-2012, 01:36 AM
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I haven't even mentioned the major water leak we had during construction. This is what it looked like after it had dried out for a day and a half...
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Where did the water come from?
They did sheetrock (and some trim, base before the doors? That's odd.) before the house was weather-tight?
These people are full of surprises.
Are there any water marks on the underside of the roof sheeting, esp. where the roof looks bad?
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01-31-2012, 07:23 AM
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I'd like to see the nailing pattern and I'm curious if they shot the nails 3/4 through the OSB. Lots of jobs sites I go on, the framers feel the last 1/16" of the sheathing will hold everything down.
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01-31-2012, 12:41 PM
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That is a nasty tape job on the drywall.I am wondering if Tinner might be right.Maybe the decking is blown through.I am just bewildered by the way the decking is telegraphed through the shingles.I have seen a sheet or 2 show through but not ever sheet,every course on every slope.
I tried running a search on Google about any product recalls and also tried consumer report complaints about the product and found nothing.Not to say it isn't somewhere online I just could not find anything.
Where is Bob Villa when you need him.
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01-31-2012, 12:54 PM
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All this theorizing and the op could easily climb on that scaffolding and dig around with a screwdriver or a chisel and find out what the edge of the sheeting looks like.
And put their eyeball on the rafter just to make sure it's not a crowned rafter right where the sheet breaks.
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01-31-2012, 12:57 PM
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This thread needs 100 posts...
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01-31-2012, 01:29 PM
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All this theorizing
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Now why did you have to go and spoil the fun?????.,Hahahahaha.,Actually I appreciate all the knowledgeable inputs.
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01-31-2012, 01:50 PM
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Now why did you have to go and spoil the fun?????.,Hahahahaha.,Actually I appreciate all the knowledgeable inputs.
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What...am I chopped liver (cat reference).
I supply the comedic relief in this case.
On a serious not, I feel very bad for this client. This looks like a fubar to say the least.
Get everything in writing as mentioned previously and it might be time to engage an attorney (as much as I hate to recommend that).
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01-31-2012, 02:49 PM
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In those framing pics, I don't see any rafters smaller than a 2x10, unless I'm losing my eyes...
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Ok, just wondering how they stuffed R39 in there and chutes for ventilation. Let alone the can lights in there too.
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01-31-2012, 04:16 PM
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I haven't even mentioned the major water leak we had during construction. This is what it looked like after it had dried out for a day and a half...
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How did your home sustain so much water damage after the installation of ,roof,windows,siding etc?
What was used as the drying process?
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