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Old 01-21-2012, 04:18 PM   #16
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You will probably be hard pressed to legitimately claim any sort of defect as a result of the aesthetic impact.

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What do you mean when you say "I don't know where the splitting of hairs would be"?

Also - this is my home - I am the buyer of this house.
No offense to you, but most new home buyers complain about every little thing. If contractors had to go back and replace every board that a knot fell out of, or a board that moved a little after it was installed, it's the nature of a living, moving product, then all the builders would be out of business and we wouldn't have any new houses to buy.
But, and I don't know if it's the angle or the sun, that's really bad.
If you are buying it from the builder, they'll come and at least see what's up, and try to pacify you till another day.
If the builder is a 3rd party, it may be a little more difficult.
Raise your concern. Tell him everybody is laughing at the lumps in your house and it's ruining every aspect of your being.
Just kidding.
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Is the ceiling/vault drywalled now? does it look the same? If it is that wavy then you got to look at it all the time, not good!!!!!!!!!
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No offense to you, but most new home buyers complain about every little thing. If contractors had to go back and replace every board that a knot fell out of, or a board that moved a little after it was installed, it's the nature of a living, moving product, then all the builders would be out of business and we wouldn't have any new houses to buy.
But, and I don't know if it's the angle or the sun, that's really bad.
If you are buying it from the builder, they'll come and at least see what's up, and try to pacify you till another day.
If the builder is a 3rd party, it may be a little more difficult.
Raise your concern. Tell him everybody is laughing at the lumps in your house and it's ruining every aspect of your being.
Just kidding.
No offense taken. Things have been "challenging" with this builder from the start. For example, here are a few pictures of one of our foundation walls. The wall sat like this for over a week before WE pointed it out to the builder. How they thought this was acceptable is beyond me.
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Can you get out of your contract? It seems maybe your going to find things as you live there.
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Can you get out of your contract? It seems maybe your going to find things as you live there.
They took shortcuts wherever they thought it would hide and nobody would see it.
I would suggest another building inspector look around just for peace of mind because you just never know...
I'm sure the builder has this one in his pocket.
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Can you get out of your contract? It seems maybe your going to find things as you live there.
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They took shortcuts wherever they thought it would hide and nobody would see it.
I would suggest another building inspector look around just for peace of mind because you just never know...
I'm sure the builder has this one in his pocket.
and this too!!!

Run, don't walk, from this builder.
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I have seen alot of homes with the same issues.That was about 5 years ago when everybody and their brother was a homebuilder.Or at least thought they were.

Most of these homes are still left incomplete.The property is over grown the framing is a very dark gray color and the builder lost his a**.

Nobody has to explain the importance of the trust factor between the homebuilder and the homeowner who he is building for.Problems arise on every build.But the key is to limit the problems that arise and control the situation.I have heard some bad luck stories but majority is due to the builders.,1.Inexperience 2.Miscommunication.,3.Irresponsibility

You can compare the relationship between a contractor and homeowner to erosion.The river is the actions of the contractor and the island is the relationship between the both.The more problems and doubt that is created/caused the more soil that is removed from the island.Once an area becomes weak the accelerated process of erosion is pulling more and more from the island until the trust and confidence has been eaten away leaving nothing.

If a builder or any contractor or anyone that provides a service for someone continously loses that trust and confidence factor then your time in business is on a count down to extinction.

Once you start putting up homes that look like yours it does not take long before this guy is setting on homes that customers have backed out on.Once a builder starts making payments to the bank on a property that is setting finished or incomplete that gets very costly.I know a builder.,great guy personally,but he should not be a homebuilder and he put up about 7 homes like yours and sold 1.He made payments on 6 homes that were in the upper $500,000.00 range.He lost everything and is about 3.3 million in debt.

How many homes has this guy built?.,If all is as you say it is I would contact my attorney and have him review your contract.

I would definitely hook and book on this one.

If you are amused by my island erosion comparison you should hear my comparison of fast food drive thru and 3rd grade play grounds..

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Run a string line where the rafters are setting on the top 2 plates. This is where the rafters are cut by the framer. If the cuts are off, it will show up in the string line there. Crowns are usually in toward the middle of the rafter. You can get this effect if the framer got off on his cuts. I would have a professional framer check this and tell you if it is framing error or just crowns.
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Please go out and take some more pix of the roof, from the outside. And not into the sun either!
That looks like at least one unnailed sheet of sheathing to me. Looks like the bottom edge is up causing a hump/drop-off. and near the valley, it looks like an end curled up.
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How many homes has this guy built?.,If all is as you say it is I would contact my attorney and have him review your contract.
They have literally built thousands of homes in the area as well as countless commercial buildings. The company is many decades old.

We just moved here from out-of-state and did our homework as best we could. Everything turned up pretty decent, but for whatever reason, it has been a horrible experience for us.
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Can you get the picture(s) I asked for earlier?
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Can you get the picture(s) I asked for earlier?
Hi Tinner, I just haven't had a chance to get out there during daylight hours. I will try in the next day or two. Thanks for your help!
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Can you get the picture(s) I asked for earlier?
Finally it wasn't raining - and I had a chance to get out there and take some pics during daylight hours. Here they are.
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Can you get the picture(s) I asked for earlier?

Finally it wasn't raining - and I had a chance to get out there and take some pics during daylight hours. Here they are.
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