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Old 04-22-2014, 12:17 PM   #1
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I'm wanting to side about 3' of exposed basement wall on our house to meet up with the existing siding that stops where the sill plate is. The problem I'm having is if I fur the block wall out, even using 1" material, I will have a joint that has the existing siding meeting the new siding on two different planes (see my illustration below) Green block would represent a furring strip:



My question is this. What do I have as options for this transition point? I thought about furring the existing edge (bottom edge of existing siding), but encasing that furring strip in white aluminum (I have a brake) and then attaching J-channel to it's face to match the edging of the bottom, but it's still going to look "kicked out."

I'm a bit at a loss here. Thoughts?

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Counter flash in aluminum out of the same color the siding is.

It won't look very correct though.

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Space the wall out with blue foam.
It will increase the R value and come out flat.
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You could add a properly flashed trim detail there to make the transition. A 2" sloped shelf or maybe a belly-band, hard to say what would look good without seeing the actual wall.
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You could add a properly flashed trim detail there to make the transition. A 2" sloped shelf or maybe a belly-band, hard to say what would look good without seeing the actual wall.
I'll get a picture this afternoon.

Joe, unless I'm missing something, blue foam would still kick out the wall the thickness of the foam, correct? Right now, the face of the block wall is even with the sheathing above (obviously). So the thickness of the siding is all the difference there is between planes. Once I add foam or furring to the bottom wall, I will have exaggerated that distance even more.
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It will be kicked out some whatever you put on underneath, fact of life in this situation. So if your choice is to add to the. Concrete, choices are to try to fir out the bottom of existing to make it somewhat gradual to use the suggested detail approach. A third would be just to side to the concrete since it is totally for appearances. Since it sounds as if you are vinyl, just use 1 1/4" tapcons instead of nails. That said, easier with a picture. Ron
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I was unaware you could attach vinyl directly to concrete. Although the price in tapcons itself my be a bit prohibitive in itself. Thanks for all of the suggestions. Again, pictures to come this afternoon.
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Use 1/4" or 1/2" lath and short nails.
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So I've been giving this some thought. Since it's such a small section of wall/siding needed. Can I just attach the vinyl directly to the block wall? I could either use anchors/screws, or a flat head tapcon. Any reason NOT to do this?
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Besides the difficultly of it and punching a bunch of holes in the block, it is doable.

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