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Old 04-29-2010, 05:04 PM   #76
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HI Mike, i got to yhank you for posting this info. I am a journeymen carpenter by trade. I also can do anything in a house or out. shoot I can put a sublevel or multipal level house or structure where ever you need it all aspects you name it. but dont get me wrong there are some stuff i have not done ''small stuff''. Now I AM 31 years old, I started the construction feild wwhen I was 16. i had to lie about my age of course but that was back when you were able to do that.as the the time passes we got manufactureres comeing out with new product all the time .so it is up to us to keep up with all that. So when I say I am a do it yourselfer I mean I do it all by my self. now I do hire alabor or two wen the job is to big for one man. that way I don't run into those people who refer to themselves as ''THE PROS''. these people do not think the way you and I think. they do have the know how but they dont have what you and I have in mind and that is to save ourselves some money, cuz they want it and they want as much or more then the job is really worth.that is why they use the scsre tactics , like burning your house down or even worse your family. I mean come on they really must think we are all idiots. I think a true idiot would not even attempt something like this torch down. cuz of the fire hazard and he;s just plain niaeve, that he would let the contractor talk him into let him doing it.so i think they are wrong for wat they have said to you or anybody else in this matter. to direspectfully say and prey on people like you and I. For all they knowwe can be a whole lot smarter and resourcefull than them . I mean after all alls they do is lay rolled rubber and they all like you said have lines to help you alighn the overlaps, '' oh my lord that sounds like itis soooo hard'' ya right.any way Mike just wanted to thank you for being persistant and not giving in to the many asses. I found your post to be varry helpful. oh ya keep up the good work . your freind in the desert Serjio.
Well, no good deed goes unpunished. We recommend DIY'ers NOT doing torch down for good reason. IF you insist, then I hope you do have roofing torch insurance, and good luck.

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Hi Aaron,

Your website is down - you may wanna contact your webmaster or hosting company.

Also - want to send you an Email about that Spray Foam roofing thing we talked about - what is your email address?
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Your website is down - you may wanna contact your webmaster or hosting company.

Also - want to send you an Email about that Spray Foam roofing thing we talked about - what is your email address?
Yes, my website is being rebuilt at the moment.

Contact me at roseroofing@sbcglobal.net
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Hi All,

My wife and I are building a 400 sq foot extension to our house and doing all the work ourselves except the foundation. So far, all the walls are up and the roof rafters and OSB are going down this weekend.

I have an existing torch down roof with a 1:12 pitch and need to tie the new roof to the existing roof. Since the new extension is only on one half of the existing roof, the new roof is in the same plane as the existing roof. That's a pretty lousy explanation, but look at it this way. The original roof has only two sides that slope 1:12 from the middle. We're building the new extension so it extends only from half of the length of the house starting at the middle.


After the OSB goes down we hope to install the torch down by overlapping the existing torch down for about 2 or 3 feet to assure no leaks. I'm not sure if this is a good idea or not.

Additionally, I've never put a torch down roof on, but it doesn't appear to be that hard. We have permits to do the work and we're pretty good at framing, electricity and plumbing, so how hard can the roof be? :-)

Is anyone aware of a DIY site that explains the torch down procedure?

Thanks all! Nice site. :-)

Mike - Burien, WA
you need to have a pro on hand your main worry is burning your house down insurance does not pay on this one even though it may seem simple it is not flame gets in where you can not even see it going in the long run trying to save a few dollars may cost you a lot more take it from a pro 30 year roofer
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I know this is an older post, but how is that roof doing?? I'm glad to see you had a consultant on the job. Torch down is nothing to mess with.. Yes you can burn down your house and the whole neighborhood. I dont think your insurance will cover that. Anyways, I hate it when a non pro puts instructions down on how to do something. All the sudden your a pro?? Also after 25 years of doing this, I have never burned my fingers. Must of done it wrong..Thats why there are trades and we or plumbers or electricians do the job the way we learned in school. Those roofs that blew off, how do you know they were put on correctly?? You cant knock it if you dont know it!!!
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My father has done torch down for some 35 years and never had one leak. We've done torch down on a few dozen jobs over the past 5 years and did have one leak, my father took the day off and it was one of my first solo torch down jobs. Although I thought the roof was pitched enough to flow water it didn't and water puddled and leaked. The fix was a 60 Mill EDPM roof over the torch down and it's good to go.

This expensive lesson was a torch down roof is not made for standing water just like an asphalt shingle is not made to hold back standing water.

We do EDPM on most roofs these days and only do torch down on new construction roofs which get decks built on top. My theory is a granulated torch down under a deck is better than a EDPM due to the potential of a cig dropped on the roof. A flat roofing guy I know with Durlast got a call back on a commercial building with leaks. The leak was near the exit door by the break room. Turns out the employees of the company would flick there cigs up on the roof!!!

BTW, my master bedroom balcany has smooth torch under the slate.

For the record I don't get excited when it's time to do a torch down job. It's a dangerous roofing application not only for the building but for myself.

Anybody watch Mike Holmes's TV show? His roofers do torch on almost every flat roof they work on.
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My father has done torch down for some 35 years and never had one leak. We've done torch down on a few dozen jobs over the past 5 years and did have one leak, my father took the day off and it was one of my first solo torch down jobs. Although I thought the roof was pitched enough to flow water it didn't and water puddled and leaked. The fix was a 60 Mill EDPM roof over the torch down and it's good to go.

This expensive lesson was a torch down roof is not made for standing water just like an asphalt shingle is not made to hold back standing water.

We do EDPM on most roofs these days and only do torch down on new construction roofs which get decks built on top. My theory is a granulated torch down under a deck is better than a EDPM due to the potential of a cig dropped on the roof. A flat roofing guy I know with Durlast got a call back on a commercial building with leaks. The leak was near the exit door by the break room. Turns out the employees of the company would flick there cigs up on the roof!!!

BTW, my master bedroom balcany has smooth torch under the slate.

For the record I don't get excited when it's time to do a torch down job. It's a dangerous roofing application not only for the building but for myself.

Anybody watch Mike Holmes's TV show? His roofers do torch on almost every flat roof they work on.
Ya I watch HOH all the time. They also add a 1/4" matt under the smooth and then put granulated on top of that. Every state or country has there way of doing things. Here in Ohio, we put down the base and then smooth along with a silver coating after a few months to a year later. Your right, I don't get excited either. Between me and my four brothers we have almost 100 years experience. Good luck on next job.
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Here in MN we've always done ice and water/base/torch.

Of course the ice and water is not required but it's just another step we do.

Speaking of years of experiance used to run a crew with a few years experiance,

Father 40 years
Uncle 30 years
Cousin #1 40 years
Cousin #2 35 years
Brother #1 15 years
Brother #2 12 years
Myself 17 years

We could hammer out 50sq 12/12 tear offs in a day!!!
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Here in MN we've always done ice and water/base/torch.

Of course the ice and water is not required but it's just another step we do.

Speaking of years of experiance used to run a crew with a few years experiance,

Father 40 years
Uncle 30 years
Cousin #1 40 years
Cousin #2 35 years
Brother #1 15 years
Brother #2 12 years
Myself 17 years

We could hammer out 50sq 12/12 tear offs in a day!!!
I hear you man. They ended up putting us on all the 100 year old churches in town. Tearing off slate. Since the main co was all flat roofs, we were the only ones doing side jobs for years and nobody else wanted the 12/12's.
it was nice, usually 6 months on a job, those were nice ones. Then we got stuck doing Spanish tile tear off on a college. That lasted for years. Anyways like I said, good luck. I'm retired now. 40 years old
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Sad thing is my cousin with over 40 years exp died of a massive heart attic last year, 55 years old. His brother has had strokes and is in no shape to work anymore, 57 years old. My father had another heart attack this Summer and his doctors told him to never go on a roof again, 55 years old.

Roofing is very hard on the body...

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