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Old 03-29-2008, 11:44 AM   #61
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I just like fire. To be able to be productive with it is even better.

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Do you have 911 on speed dial?Just kidding!Hi Aaron where about are you from?Still alot of torching going on there,or are companies getting out of it?
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There is a lot of it still going down. My rates are pretty good with my on-site insurance inspections and all. I do a lot of repair work though. I do not do many new installs with that system.

I am 30 miles SW of Chicago.
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I'm not far from Vancouver B.C.There are still quite a few companies out here torching,but I mainly do TPO for my flat roofs.Insurance is between 20-30k a year on average for fire,compared to $1800 for TPO.So for me it's a no-brainer.Are you a Blackhawks fan then?My home team the Cannots(Canucks)I give up on years ago.Anyways,talk to you soon
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JohnK,

I am about 30 miles NW of Chicago, and this has been the first year that the BlackHawks have given us some hope for the future.

I used to go tho the old Chicago Stadium on the spur of a moment and get standing room only years ago, like in the mid-80's through the early 90's, and it was loud and wild.

Once old man Bill Wirtz kicked the bucket, his son stepped it up a notch and brought back the long time heroes.

Tony Espositos night for being announced as an ambassador for the team was last week Friday. What a steal we got from the Canadiens with him. Ken Dryden was no slouch either, though.

The young talented scorers they have now, finaly allow me to read about the team in the local newspapers once again, without having to hide which articles I read due to shame.

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It's good to be able to be proud of your home team,unlike my home team,they always get your hopes up and then dive-bomb.The have never won the cup,at least Chicago has a few times.It's been awhile though,eh-1960-61?
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1971 was close, but Tony O let a red line shot bounce over his stick. Danged contact lenses.

Also the other year, much later on against Pittsburgh. To this day, that spin move that Jagr did was one of the most beautiful plays in hocky all time.

Too bad it was for the opposition. But, it was a thing of beauty. What grace and style and balance.

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Sound like you know just as much about hockey as roofing.You should start a hockey forum.I know your knowledge is much appreciated around here and every other forum your a part of.It's good to know we all have your knowledge at our fingertips,thank-you!!
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It is the best sport to see in person versus watching on TV.

Those late 60's and early 70's years were when I was just getting out of grammar school and into high school, so those memories are a vibrant reminder of what I liked as a youngster.

We used to freeze our back yards over visqueen and build side boards about 12" high and also go to the local pond with a couple of cans of sterno to heat up the toes.

From following the league since they were the original 6, to the diluted years when they expanded too rapidly, until they started recruiting the Swedes and Russians, hockey was just a mere pittance of its former self.

It seems to have gotten away from the dilution and the good ere and now, once again is ballet on ice with certain individuals.

I'm on too many forums already, so I'll let you start the hockey one.

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Mike,

I've been considering DIY-ing my torch down, just got 'pro' quote for over $6K with tax for 1,300 sq ft. I know materials cost is a small percentage, right? I did some patching years ago and relatively easy, just with plumber's torch. I figure I'll rent a bigger torch this time. I haven't explored all your advice yet, but I'm in your 'neighborhood' - Seattle.

Thanks for blazing the trail on torch down - I'm a thoroughly experienced handyman, too, just haven't done this yet. If you'd followed all the admonishments and hired a 'pro' we wouldn't be here today.

Thanks again,
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Why practice on your own roof?Torching is definitely not a diy project.It takes more than a few rolls to grasp the technique.It takes years of hands on experience.Your homeowners insurance will not cover you either,if you burn it down!Call the pros.
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Mike,

I've been considering DIY-ing my torch down, just got 'pro' quote for over $6K with tax for 1,300 sq ft. I know materials cost is a small percentage, right? I did some patching years ago and relatively easy, just with plumber's torch. I figure I'll rent a bigger torch this time. I haven't explored all your advice yet, but I'm in your 'neighborhood' - Seattle.

Thanks for blazing the trail on torch down - I'm a thoroughly experienced handyman, too, just haven't done this yet. If you'd followed all the admonishments and hired a 'pro' we wouldn't be here today.

Thanks again,
Jonathan in Seattle
I wish you the best of luck, but if you also read thoroughly, there have been many who have tried and failed, at least thankfully, with no serious injuries.

There are news reports all of the time of some careless "Roofer-Wannabe", both Home Owner DIY'ers and Roofers without proper safety training, who have no business handling a torch on anybodys property, that burnt the structure down to the ground.

Read through this entire thread again and look for the safety guidelines and also any specific concern that would be relevant to your own health and welfare. Please.

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Mr Connecto-do Yourself A Favor,and Look Into Self Adhered Systems ,like Certainteed Flintlastic,gaf Liberty,polyglass,mulehide Etc--all Are Good Products,and Have Less Risk Attached---in Fact The Certainteed Flintlastic Sa System With Nalable Base,interply Base,and Granulated Cap Sheet Carries A Better Warranty Than Most Torch Down(10 Yr) Systems,with A 15 Year System When All 3 Plys Are Used---also You Could Check Other Roofers,over 6,000$ Sounds High,and There Certainly Shouldn`t Be Any Tax Involved As It Is Considered A Capitol Home Improvement
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Mike,
Glad to see your post thread and success with your torch down on your addition. I have a rental that I need to do a roof on likely myself to conserve $$ and to learn a new skill. I've ripped off some roofs, built some additions and have done both rolled roofing and comp shingles but not torch down.
Some questions:
1. The existing is an old failing tar and gravel the roof has about a 12/2 or greater pitch, I wonder if the underlayment will go successfully over the sheeting that is there that won't be a slick and even as a new OSB or ply deck?

2. Penetrations and chimneys: for vents what do you put between the vent and the patch, do you use a roof jack like with comp shingles and put the patch over that.

Any do's and don't ideas would be appreciated by all...

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HI Mike, i got to yhank you for posting this info. I am a journeymen carpenter by trade. I also can do anything in a house or out. shoot I can put a sublevel or multipal level house or structure where ever you need it all aspects you name it. but dont get me wrong there are some stuff i have not done ''small stuff''. Now I AM 31 years old, I started the construction feild wwhen I was 16. i had to lie about my age of course but that was back when you were able to do that.as the the time passes we got manufactureres comeing out with new product all the time .so it is up to us to keep up with all that. So when I say I am a do it yourselfer I mean I do it all by my self. now I do hire alabor or two wen the job is to big for one man. that way I don't run into those people who refer to themselves as ''THE PROS''. these people do not think the way you and I think. they do have the know how but they dont have what you and I have in mind and that is to save ourselves some money, cuz they want it and they want as much or more then the job is really worth.that is why they use the scsre tactics , like burning your house down or even worse your family. I mean come on they really must think we are all idiots. I think a true idiot would not even attempt something like this torch down. cuz of the fire hazard and he;s just plain niaeve, that he would let the contractor talk him into let him doing it.so i think they are wrong for wat they have said to you or anybody else in this matter. to direspectfully say and prey on people like you and I. For all they knowwe can be a whole lot smarter and resourcefull than them . I mean after all alls they do is lay rolled rubber and they all like you said have lines to help you alighn the overlaps, '' oh my lord that sounds like itis soooo hard'' ya right.any way Mike just wanted to thank you for being persistant and not giving in to the many asses. I found your post to be varry helpful. oh ya keep up the good work . your freind in the desert Serjio.

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