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Old 05-30-2009, 09:12 PM   #46
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Christmas lights can void your insurance though.

And no, it's not possible.

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Old 05-30-2009, 09:31 PM   #47
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Its very possible
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Old 05-30-2009, 09:50 PM   #48
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Its very possible
Want to put a wager on that?

Have you ever even had a conversation with an insurance adjuster?
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Old 05-30-2009, 10:06 PM   #49
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Not wrong & very possible
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The NRCA states that if the method of installation does not follow the manufacturers' instructions, the warranty will be voided.

Bandit, from now on, do everything in writing.

Write to the roofer asking him to put all that explanation in writing about your old felt being the best. Demand his letter with his company's logo.

Let's find out if he's a man of integrity.

Once you receive his explanation on his company's logo, call the manufacturer, ask them to whom you may address a letter of concern about their materials.

The manufacturer is going to pounce on him for not following installation methods.
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Old 05-30-2009, 11:19 PM   #51
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If you want to talk voiding warranty.........

Some people still install laminates incorrectly, voiding warranty.
Some attics are improperly ventilated, voiding warranty.
Most I&W on a recent reroof is not installed properly to a clean deck, voiding warranty.
Some I&W is installed incorrectly under drip edge, voiding warranty
Some shingles are nailed too high or incorrectly, voiding warranty

Have you dealt with a warranty claim before?
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If you want to talk voiding warranty.........

Have you dealt with a warranty claim before?
yes I have
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Great!

Then you realize that most roofs out there done by hacks have no warranty.

There doesn't seem to be too many people worried about it. I wish there were though, so they could see through the low ballers and story tellers.
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Maam,

Write a letter to the company and Demand a full refund for the value of the materials and labor for them not replacing the felt paper.

They did not Remove the old felt paper, Labor cost.

They did not Install New felt paper, Material And Labor Cost.

It is not your problem that they "Under-Estimated" the job and then they stated that they would have had to charge you for the felt paper. NO. the contract stated that was already included.

That excuse is completely unacceptable.

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OSB disintegrates when wet or damp for any length of time, my guys went through a roof 3 times, one of them through the ceiling as well on a 17 year old house.
I have also done $150,000.00 in repairs to a small townhouse complex, everything from engineered floorjoists to sheathing to microlams. OSB is waterpoof for about a month then it buckles, after a few years of being damp yopu might as well pull it off.
Should never be used on a roof unless you live in Nevada
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We did work on about 100 insurance claims this year (mostly fascias & hidden gutters knocked off by ice & snow)& the one that the insurance only paid to patch was the one in which the hidden gutters were not replaced after the reroof, All the others were fully replaced.
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:48 PM   #57
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Why would it get wet?

I have seen WAY more problems with plywood separating/buckling/breaking.

Even with our bad weather here in MN. I haven't seen OSB fail unless it is left open in the weather for months. Some OSB for floors is made to withstand moisture and has a 50 year warranty. 90% of homes have it on the roof here. How can you say that it should "never be used"?
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Why would it get wet?

I have seen WAY more problems with plywood separating/buckling/breaking.

Even with our bad weather here in MN. I haven't seen OSB fail unless it is left open in the weather for months. Some OSB for floors is made to withstand moisture and has a 50 year warranty. 90% of homes have it on the roof here. How can you say that it should "never be used"?
You better read the warranty
If its like some shingle warranties you might just burn the paperwork.
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:54 PM   #59
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Well, they use it on bigger homes that may take longer to close up. Was used on a $2million house we did a few years ago. It held up really well.
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Contractors bid homes to make a buck & every dollar they save is a dollar in their pocket.Some of the biggest ones are the cheapest.
In my area they put on the cheapest roofs (asphalst, cedar or concrete)for new construction
Homeowners feel different about the house they live in & will spend more money to get better materials & a better job. Not just what is cheap like not replacing felt.
There are a million guys out there doing cheap.
Quality products & quality installations with care to the details are what makes someone stand out(even in tough times)
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