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Old 02-04-2013, 09:32 AM   #1
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have 2 month old roof. Roofing Company put new plywood over rotted/sagging existing plywood then new shingles. They never got ANY permit/permits. Purchased home after roof was done, but paid for ALL new plywood to be put on. Previous owners went through their insurance company to have roof done. Company that did roof coming 2day to check "issues" as they put it. City Building Inspector told us roofers should have gotten 2 permits 1 for complete tearoff of plywood and replacement because code says 1 layer only,and permit for shingles 1 layer only. Now what do/can we do about poor roof job?

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Time to talk to your lawyer.

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was the contract with the roofer through you or the previous owner? if previous owner then I do not believe you'd have a legal claim as there was not a contractual obligation between you and the roofer. That's why we have lawyers.

has building inspector been to site and performed an inspection? A failed inspector by the building department would go a long way in getting things right as it gives you some leverage. In my state they are licensed by the state and the state investigates complaints.

See what the roofer says after they come out (and what they actually do). if that don't work then as Gymschu said "call your lawyer"
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Somethiing sounds fishy, how did the insuance company even get involved?
Unless there was storm damage or a tree fell through it there just not going to pay for a new roof even if it cause damage inside from lack of maintaince on the roof.
Not sure how it works there but around here an adjuster comes out, comes up with a price, if you except the amount it's up to the home owner to choose a roofer not the insurance company.
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Well first of all you really dont have a 2 year old roof, you have a disaster.

Did you have this house inspected prior to purchase? What did the inspection report say? I would think that you have recourse there. This is a preexisting condition that should have been addressed prior to transfer of ownership.

Do not even consider the CYA statement that says the inspector has no liability that is sure to appear in their agreement. You cant put out a shingle saying you are an expert, then relinquish any responsibility for your performance as one.
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It does sound like there are some extra details needed here, but you should be pretty well protected. As Gary mentioned above, a failed inspection will need to be addressed, and certainly the insurance company is obligated to have the job completed properly. The tough part will be if all of this was done under the homes previous owner, as you'll need to put pressure on them to get things taken care of if that is the case. They have their money so they probably won't be jumping out of their chairs to help, so you may need to have some legal counsel contact them to expedite the process.
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If I understand this correctly....you bought the house 'after' the roof was done...but paid for the extra plywood? You have been in the house for less than a year? (basically 2 months?)

If so...I'm assuming you have new home insurance. Most home purchases include a 1 year warranty for such things like this.

But as the others have said...sounds real fishy....

Before you get too caught up in it....take a step back....make sure you have your facts and events right. This could get ugly...

Just another example of why we have the permit process....
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Just another example of why we have the permit process....
ah come on dawg ...... just costs money, slows down the builder or DIY'er, causes property valuations to go up, makes 'em do it right (hopefully). Why in the world would someone need a permit (wink-wink-nod-nod)

We should have a section called "Why Do I Need A Permit" and we could link posts like these so people can understand their value.
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ah come on dawg ...... just costs money, slows down the builder or DIY'er, causes property valuations to go up, makes 'em do it right (hopefully). Why in the world would someone need a permit (wink-wink-nod-nod)

We should have a section called "Why Do I Need A Permit" and we could link posts like these so people can understand their value.
Actually....not a bad idea......

On a related note....I had my plumbing rough-in inspection yesterday....the inspector required that I fill all my DWS lines with water to the roof (2-story)...which means I had to crawl under the house...cut the main line where the new joins the old...install a cap....and cap off all the other open ends...then climb up on the roof and fill the pips with water....

And I'm think...what a real PIA.....then as I'm up on the roof I'm thinking....I sure hope I don't have any leaks....and then it really hit me....

I'm I'm concerned that I don't have leaks....why would I not want to test it?

Now when I close up the walls....I won't have that nagging worry that I might have a leak....that b!tch does not leak....had water in it for almost 24 hours...not a drop (except the clean out at the rear of the house...but that's ok)

Yep...I think permits are a good idea...it protects everyone...
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I don't understand why they put new plywood over old plywood. They should have taken it down to the rafters. I guess they were trying to save time and money. You now see the results.
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Hey Dawg,

What about the repair you had to do after the test. How is that tested?
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What about the repair you had to do after the test. How is that tested?
No repair re-inspection necessary....the threads on the clean out were roughed up a bit a few months ago when I was snaking the line (roots at the street).

This leak is basically outside the house....so the only time I should see water here is if I have a blockage....

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SO what do you have there a street 45 to a Y going back the other way? You pull the plug after the test, huh? You still using ABS?
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SO what do you have there a street 45 to a Y going back the other way? You pull the plug after the test, huh? You still using ABS?
This is a pic of what it looks like on the other side in the crawl space...



And this is looking the other way....



My clean out is basically a straight shot all the way to the street....
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