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Old 01-25-2012, 09:31 PM   #91
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You will have no manufactures warranty and if you have wood rot then if will never get changed, not to mention the mold issues that can be possible with leaks

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Where is the link saying they would not have a manufacturers warranty?

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Old 01-26-2012, 06:12 AM   #92
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Where is the link saying they would not have a manufacturers warranty?
There is no link for that because shingle manufacturers do honor their material warranties on lay-overs and they say as much on their websites.
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You will have no manufactures warranty and if you have wood rot then if will never get changed, not to mention the mold issues that can be possible with leaks
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Any roofer ignorant enough to do a lay-over of an existing roof that is in bad enough shape to have rot or mold issues on the sheathing or other structural components (detectable issues) would provide a poor quality install even on a tear-off or new construction also.
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I think this thread will be the one that never dies.If ever you want to start a conversation that brings out the DIY Chatroom demons.,.,Talk recovers

I refuse to do them anymore.I make it my mission to make it affordable for the customer.If I finance the excess it takes for the rebuild with zero finance charge it helps me in the long run versus having liability in the future.Liability is much more than a financial aspect.

If the customer cannot afford to have one layer removed what are the chances of them ever having the funds to have 2 removed later down the road?

Not to mention the reduction in property value with a 2 layer versus a single layer.
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I refuse to do them anymore.I make it my mission to make it affordable for the customer.If I finance the excess it takes for the rebuild with zero finance charge it helps me in the long run versus having liability in the future.Liability is much more than a financial aspect.

If the customer cannot afford to have one layer removed what are the chances of them ever having the funds to have 2 removed later down the road?

Not to mention the reduction in property value with a 2 layer versus a single layer.
I agree with selling re-roofs instead of lay-overs, I do the same, which is why I can remember most lay-overs I ever did in over 30 years in the trade, because there have been so few.

I don't agree:
1. That it reduces property value, at least not if it's installed properly.
2. That the added cost of an additional layer is a determining factor, because the people/home owners who push me in that direction have consistently been in situations of hard times, lost job, health issues, etc.,
and situations like that are temporary issues.

The exception is the occasional slum-lord with a rental property or a home owner trying to sale their home.
I seldom get the job in either of these scenarios, because people like this don't want and aren't willing to pay for a properly installed lay-over, they just want new shingles slapped over the existing, re-use existing flashing's, vents, etc., and those are improper installs and they will rarely last longer then half the expected life span of a shingle roof before they begin failing.

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Sly.,.,I agree that I should have phrased it different.Sometimes that second layer is an issue when it is time to sell.I have 8 of my realtors that have informed me about the multi layer issue.

In my area generally the potential new homeowner requests that the roof be replaced or a deduction of the expense of a build.With the market as it is new home buyers are really controlling the sale.So technically in that sense it does affect the value directly or indirectly.

Most of my customers who ask for recovers are in financial binds.The highest percentage of mine would be the elderly.That is why I commented about if they cannot afford it now then they would have problems purchasing a build with 2 layers when and if the time came for a reroof..

I am not smacking the elderly with my comment either.They are on a very fixed income and as I am sure you know they live on a tight budget and a reduction on their monthly income will have tremendous affects on their way of life..,just saying.
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sheeting is less than 10.00 per sheet.

Somebody please call me an ambulance..... I've fallen and I can't get up!...lol.
I had to check the post date three times before i replied.

Where in the world is plywood less than $10.00 dollars a sheet. That s an american money price quote?.......Maybe for a 2 x 2 peice.....A sheet of 1/2 inch (15/32) plywood here runs around $17.67 USD
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$10 per sheet and $5 per sheet to put it up sounds about right...

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