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Old 01-20-2012, 05:17 PM   #46
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From my experience, you NEVER truly know the cause of the leak until you've opened everything up. There have been times, even without a leak, that I was glad we didn't just lay over. It;s not THAT much more work and the cost is minimal if you do it yourself. Do it the right way the first time...your roof protects a lot of other assets.

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To mjw for saying I have no clue how to run a business. Maybe not, but I do know if I were to go into the roofing business, I think I would at least learn how to do a roof first. I could go into the engineering business but I wouldn't advise you to drive over any bridges I built.
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To mjw for saying I have no clue how to run a business. Maybe not, but I do know if I were to go into the roofing business, I think I would at least learn how to do a roof first. I could go into the engineering business but I wouldn't advise you to drive over any bridges I built.


Just wondering what this has to do with the OP and what your constructive input to this topic exactly is

You are not being very considerate don't you think?
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I was being very considerate, I posted my knowledge this morning to op and went on about my day. When I got home tonight, I found that I was being accused by some contractors on here of "trapping" the poor contractor because I said the wood needed to be checked. I was not the one being inconsiderate. Read the posts.
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Why are we having this conversation?
Cause the interwebs are serious biddness...

Seriously though...not sure.

Saying that it take 5 minutes and a $6 sheet of OSB is lunacy though and if my customer wanted to go that route...they are welcome to.
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I wish I could have paid some $8 a sheet to resheath this one!
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I wish I could have paid some $8 a sheet to resheath this one!
A 12/12? Probably $108/sheet!
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I wish I could have paid some $8 a sheet to resheath this one!
But it only costs $6, and it takes 5 minutes.


I don't think anyone was arguing. Just stating facts that others apparently don't know about.
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I was being very considerate, I posted my knowledge this morning to op and went on about my day. When I got home tonight, I found that I was being accused by some contractors on here of "trapping" the poor contractor because I said the wood needed to be checked. I was not the one being inconsiderate. Read the posts.
The way you wrote your post and your attitude, I'm 100% sure you were trying to pull something. JMO
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I wish I could have paid some $8 a sheet to resheath this one!
What a wuss Paragon.

Golf spikes, air nailer, and a stiff cup of coffee. Done in 1 hour.
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What a wuss Paragon.

Golf spikes, air nailer, and a stiff cup of coffee. Done in 1 hour.

Job was a nightmare. 4 layers. We decked that one from the top down as we tore.

That was an insurance job. They gave the property owner 8k! Can you believe that? 20 square. 4 layers, redeck.
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When I got home tonight, I found that I was being accused by some contractors on here of "trapping" the poor contractor




The only reason I had the impression about trickery was from the statement you made about already knowing what needed to be replaced.I may have jumped to conclusions (Thats never happened before) but the question I should have asked was how far along the project was rolling before you stepped in.Your choice and your home so in reality it was your ballgame.

Even though I have walked the roof and pretty much pinpointed problem area I still ask the customer where and if at all any issues exist that I have not covered.IMO it is an excellent demonstration of the contractor and customer keeping an open line of communication.Together they can both achieve their ultimate goal.That is to install your roof system according to spec and to insure that all issues have been addressed PRIOR to job commencement.

That is where the communication line is the most important.Communication affects several phases of the build.It effects the efficiency of the forward motion the project needs to be completed in a reasonable amount of time.With holding information and or having knowledge of anything that can affect on time,on target on budget completion IMO hinders the communication and reliability of both parties.

I have been in the situation where the customer knew about a couple issues and neglected to inform me and the result was bad blood (so to speak) between the customer and myself.This is no game.,its not hide and sneak or an easter egg hunt.These actions affect the relationship between the customer and contractor..,IMO of course.

If it were me I would want to have the comfort of knowing that everything is on the table,in my contract and knowing that the possibility for surprises will be minimal.
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Job was a nightmare. 4 layers. We decked that one from the top down as we tore.

That was an insurance job. They gave the property owner 8k! Can you believe that? 20 square. 4 layers, redeck.
Seems about right.

Labor is only $12 per hour...right?
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Yeah, and then people wanted to know why I wanted to go up in their
attic with my Polaroid camera and take pictures!
Less surprises!

My, my - what interesting things you find!
He, he, he!!!

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myself!)

12 dollars an hour!!!
Wow!
I'm at a buck, ten!

Peace!

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