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Sorry but I thought he said his roof was leaking, I can't see how you could possibly even consider doing a layover over that and when a homeowner tells you he has leaks, you have to know he has wood issues, I certainly was not trying to "trap" a contractor, but I sure am gonna check it myself and know what is bad myself before he tells me some bs that all is well and just throw some shingles over the old ones. I did not say I was'nt gonna pay the guy for the work he did, but I am not gonna pay for slop.
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Rather or not a leak/s cause wood rot depends on how bad the leak/s are and how long the leaks have been ongoing.
That's some thing the roofer has to determine during his/her inspection.
There are also several other issues the roofer has to inspect too determine rather or not a lay-over can be done or not.
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01-20-2012, 04:48 PM
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There's much more prep work than that if your going to do it properly.
Cutting the tabbed portion of the existing off in certain areas, not just the eaves.
Cutting the existing shingles back even with the overhangs, so new drip can be installed.
Installing new flashing's on penetrations.
Upgrading ventilation, if needed.
Etc............
Just covering the old roofing system with new shingles is not the proper installation method.
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Okay. I didn't think of a few things.
I would have once I was up there looking around, but not sitting here.
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01-20-2012, 05:05 PM
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In still trying to get over the whole $10 wood replacement thing.
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01-20-2012, 05:09 PM
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Well if you call Lowes 4x8 sheets of OSB 7/16 sheeting is about 8.98 per sheet. Maybe a little more for 1/2' plywood. That is what it costs!
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01-20-2012, 05:11 PM
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Well if you call Lowes 4x8 sheets of OSB 7/16 sheeting is about 8.98 per sheet. Maybe a little more for 1/2' plywood. That is what it costs!
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Well yes, I purchase it for around $6 a sheet but that isn't what it's installed for.
I assume you were just mentioning the cost of the wood.
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01-20-2012, 05:14 PM
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If the roofers put it down, it takes about 5 min's, so at 55.00 per sheet as was previously mentioned, it works out to $660.00 per hour, not sure the president makes that. 
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01-20-2012, 05:23 PM
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If the roofers put it down, it takes about 5 min's, so at 55.00 per sheet as was previously mentioned, it works out to $660.00 per hour, not sure the president makes that. |
Either does the roofer. This is a big misconception. I charge 1.50 a square foot or $48 a sheet. After removing the old wood, disposing of it, labor to install the new, labor burdens on installing the new, it's not as much profit as you might think. None of that includes the time and money it took to get the wood.
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01-20-2012, 05:23 PM
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gopher59 has no clue how a business is run.
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01-20-2012, 05:27 PM
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We have charged as much as $100 a sheet to go over existing 1x spaced boards. Did we get rich on those jobs? Hardly.......
It really irks me when people start figuring out an hourly wage when they hire a Pro for a complete job. They obviously have no clue what they cost their employer or how a business runs.
If it's so easy and only takes 5 minutes and no skill, do it yourself.
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01-20-2012, 05:37 PM
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No problem! According to you its 654.00 in my pocket instead of yours.
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01-20-2012, 05:43 PM
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No problem! According to you its 654.00 in my pocket instead of yours.
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This is where the misunderstanding is. Its far from that amount in pocket. Heck, if my customers had the right equipment and the ability to resheath their own roofs, I would let them 
I can't stand it and the guys don't like soon it either.
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01-20-2012, 05:43 PM
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We have charged as much as $100 a sheet to go over existing 1x spaced boards. Did we get rich on those jobs? Hardly.......
It really irks me when people start figuring out an hourly wage when they hire a Pro for a complete job. They obviously have no clue what they cost their employer or how a business runs.
If it's so easy and only takes 5 minutes and no skill, do it yourself.
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That's why they call us CONtractors.
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01-20-2012, 06:03 PM
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Heck, if my customers had the right equipment and the ability to resheath their own roofs, I would let them |
Gladly!  
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01-20-2012, 06:06 PM
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And I might add, the sheeting would actually be put on the house.  
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01-20-2012, 06:17 PM
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Why are we having this conversation? 
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