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Old 04-07-2014, 03:28 PM   #1
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Hi, a friend asked me today about his roof. He's got a 100 year old house and it's in need of a roof. He's been quasi-budgeting/saving for what he expects to be the ballpark range. He learned today that the existing asphalt shingle roof is installed over wood shingles. I haven't seen the roof myself, but I'm guessing it's wood over spaced board sheathing. This just put the cost of the replacement way beyond what he could afford through a contractor. The question is, is it feasible to do the tear down and possibly even the re-sheathing himself to save some of the cost and have a contractor do the roof? is this a particularly challenging thing to do or just labor intensive?

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It's possible for him to do himself depending on his age and shape.The old roof needs to be torn off and the skipsheeting needs to be covered wit th "at least" 7./16" osb and papered before the new shingles can be layed.As a contractor,I would not guarantee a roof that the home owner did the sheeting on.

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First question I would ask. Is how bad does the Attic look. Is there any signs of leaking around vents & chimney, if there is one that goes through the roof.
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Depending on his age, physical condition, abilities, it can be done by the homeowner.

But as was mentioned very few contractors will warranty the roof that has been sheathed by someone else.
their best bet is to get a home equity loan for this job, or a contractor willing to take payments.

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When I was in high school (in the dark ages), I was in a construction class that did these kind of jobs in the summers, to get the experience, and class credit, the homeowner furnished the materials, we furnished the labor, School district had a Contractor on staff that got a wage to point his finger ( do it this way),

Everyone won.
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Its not unheard of for someone to strip the old shingles off their home and have someone else come in and shingle it, its just less feasible when you multiply the layers.
Your friend could easily spend 40+hours stripping his roof. It will also leave the roof open to the elements longer than necessary.
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Its not unheard of for someone to strip the old shingles off their home and have someone else come in and shingle it, its just less feasible when you multiply the layers.
Your friend could easily spend 40+hours stripping his roof. It will also leave the roof open to the elements longer than necessary.
The bad thing is that as a home owner. You have to pull the permit to tear off. Then the roofing company has to pull another permit to do the roofing job.

A lot of home owners have fallen off of roofs, due to not wearing safety gear. I stopped going up on mine, after I got it redone in 2008. Now if I need anything done on it. I can call the guy that did it, and he will come and fix any problems, or check stuff out.

He actually uses old chair & couch foam for sitting on, when up on the roof. Keeps you from sliding down. Plus makes it a little more comfortable up there.
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The bad thing is that as a home owner. You have to pull the permit to tear off. Then the roofing company has to pull another permit to do the roofing job.

A lot of home owners have fallen off of roofs, due to not wearing safety gear. I stopped going up on mine, after I got it redone in 2008. Now if I need anything done on it. I can call the guy that did it, and he will come and fix any problems, or check stuff out.

He actually uses old chair & couch foam for sitting on, when up on the roof. Keeps you from sliding down. Plus makes it a little more comfortable up there.
I roof everyday and I wouldn't want to strip a 3/4 layer roof myself..but you gotta do what you gotta do sometimes.
Just pounding down the old tacks on the thing could take a whole day for one guy who knows how to move on a steep roof.

No permits for roofing here, so I hadn't considered that aspect of it.
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You have not lived until you have had to push sheets of sheathing up a ladder all day and try and line them up with the edge of the roof.
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You have not lived until you have had to push sheets of sheathing up a ladder all day and try and line them up with the edge of the roof.
Nor toted 100 square of Asphalt shingles up a two story ladder, one bundle at a time.


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Two old for that poop. I order roof top delivery.
Even using a laddervator is to much for me anymore.
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What is the pitch of the roof? How high ? How many square feet is the house? Could be easy, could be suicide -- depends on the house and the home-owner.
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all valid points. Thanks. He's a young guy, early 30s and he worked on telephone poles for a living - having said that, the roof has a decent pitch and the permit thing could be a huge hassle - as will the warranty. He's getting a few quotes for both ways. Thanks.
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I was concerned about the pitch. A lot of those old houses have pretty steep pitch. They were smart back then ---- big pitch to help the water run off the roof --- lasted a hundred years so far. They were brave back then too --- I don't think I would be doing it --- (but the, I was braver when I was 30 too).
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I was concerned about the pitch. A lot of those old houses have pretty steep pitch. They were smart back then ---- big pitch to help the water run off the roof --- lasted a hundred years so far. They were brave back then too --- I don't think I would be doing it --- (but the, I was braver when I was 30 too).
Bravery was not what MOM called it, But yeah me too.

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With a crew I worked on, we re-sheathed, papered and starting shingling back an old two story farmhouse in one day. This could be done by yourself, but with rain and weather risk and just sheer time involved, it would probably be best to have someone else do it.

FWIW-I've seen strips of wood added to roofs that are sheathed with 1x materials to fit inside each gap. It's not idea, but does make it a little better.

You don't really know until you get up there. I wouldn't assume (unless you know for sure) that they boards are spaced out. My parents have a home built in the 20s and while the sheathing was 1x boards, they were butted very close together and were in good condition.

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