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Old 12-13-2013, 04:57 PM   #31
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I doubt GAF wants any part of this as it is an application error. No nails in a shingle and only one set of holes in a shingle look pretty bad. The rake picture just supplied also shows no shingles under the rake edge (exposed white rake trim board) as per directions and you have no "kick-out" flashing at the porch soffit to divert water into the gutter there; http://www.finehomebuilding.com/item...-intersections

Try to get that fixed when someone adds more nails under each course in place of the over-driven ones and extra ones for the wind-swept areas along with dabs of adhesive as suggested in application directions.

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Old 12-13-2013, 05:41 PM   #32
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Picket him? Now what's that going to do?
Two wrongs do not make a right.
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I doubt GAF wants any part of this as it is an application error. No nails in a shingle and only one set of holes in a shingle look pretty bad. The rake picture just supplied also shows no shingles under the rake edge (exposed white rake trim board) as per directions and you have no "kick-out" flashing at the porch soffit to divert water into the gutter there; http://www.finehomebuilding.com/item...-intersections

Try to get that fixed when someone adds more nails under each course in place of the over-driven ones and extra ones for the wind-swept areas along with dabs of adhesive as suggested in application directions.

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Gary, I'ved looked at the GAF instructions that were pointed out in an earlier post and I think the drip edge is installed correctly in my case. The drip edge goes on top of the underlayment, but below the shingles. That is what I see anyway. What the roofer did not do that would have come in handy are dabs of adhesive under each shingle along the rake. We are not in what I would call a high wind area (like western Kansas!) but I do see more wind in my small subdivision then most houses around here. We sit a little higher and this subdivision has no trees yet. It used to be a horse pasture.

As far as the "kick out" flashing, that would have been nice to have but I think it would be difficult to install correctly now with the siding already in place. That's cement board siding.

As far as adding nails under each course of shingles, that won't be necessary because I'm having the roof stripped and redone in the area that has given me trouble.

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Old 12-14-2013, 12:11 PM   #34
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Picket him? Now what's that going to do?
Two wrongs do not make a right.
It will force him to respond to the OP's complaints. Maybe some embarrassment will provide some incentive to resolve the problem.
Also, 2 wrongs don't make a right, but, depending on local laws, picketing isn't wrong. It's his right.
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From page 5; "Place first course of shingles 1/4" – 3/4" (6–19 mm)over eave and rake edges, covering starter courseoverhang, to provide drip edge."
Bold is mine, you can see your rake flashing/white trim is exposed- no shingle lap. With wind pushing rain along the surface, water will get to your underlayment, past the first line of defense....

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From page 5; "Place first course of shingles 1/4" 3/4" (619 mm)over eave and rake edges, covering starter courseoverhang, to provide drip edge."
Bold is mine, you can see your rake flashing/white trim is exposed- no shingle lap. With wind pushing rain along the surface, water will get to your underlayment, past the first line of defense....

Gary
Your're right, they could have done a better job there.

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