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02-22-2008, 09:39 PM
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I will of course ask the contractor, but I would like to know what to ask.
Here is the quote, my questions are:
Does this mean that replacing decking is included?
Is there anything else I should look for, other than the 1/12 pitch on the addition?
I will be repairing the fascia and trim, should I do this right before or right after he is done?
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02-22-2008, 10:14 PM
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Fourth Line. Replace up to two sheets as needed.
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02-22-2008, 10:25 PM
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If you can schedule it right, when they have the roof torn off would be better for installint the fascia and other trim pieces.
But, if not, then do it before hand.
Jerry already pointed out that only 2 sheets of decking are included.
Why are you using regular mushroom vents, instead of a ridge vent?
Have you had your intake ventilation specs upgraded to conform with the shingle manufacturers warranty? At least ensure that you have the bare minimum total amount of ventilation required, even if it is not properly balanced, even though it should be.
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02-22-2008, 10:38 PM
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There are no vents other than eave vents. I thought he was referring to the plumbing stack flashings.
OK, so 2 sheets are included. My guess is that 6 will be needed, one at each corner. There is no way I can repair all six corners while it is off, so I will do it first.
I will research the ventilation issue, although I am limited by the layout.
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02-22-2008, 11:15 PM
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box vents wouldn`t work well on a 1 on 12 pitch,probably better off without if it`s flat,unless you can get the john mansville mushroom type vents designed for flat roofs,also for a torchdown roof,I would recommend CERTAINTEED"BLACK DIAMOND" WHICH IS A SELF ADHERED BASE THAT WILL SEAL WATERTIGHT,AND IS SPECIFICALLY MADE TO BE TORCHED DOWN OVER,it` seals more agressively with the torch heat-it`s like having 2 layers of waterproofing--if you`re in a warm area,I would look into Certainteed flintlastic `s SA system-nailable SA BASE,THEN AN ADHERED INTERPLY BASE,THEN A sa granulated cap sheet,has to be 50 degrees out,with an 1on 12 it would be ideal,give double protection,and the mfgr warrants the material for 15 years with that application,just has to be rolled down with a hand roller-great stuff-I never use fiberglass base anymore !
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02-22-2008, 11:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tscarborough
There are no vents other than eave vents.
I thought he was referring to the plumbing stack flashings.
OK, so 2 sheets are included. My guess is that 6 will be needed, one at each corner. There is no way I can repair all six corners while it is off, so I will do it first.
I will research the ventilation issue, although I am limited by the layout.
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That is the problems that occurr when someone does not take the time tor prepare a detailed, easily understood proposal, with a completely detailed list of specifications of what is included and what is optioned, so that the home owner can understand what is being contracted for.
You do have a sloped shingle roof being done, along with the flat roof 1/12 pitched section, correct?
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02-22-2008, 11:35 PM
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sounds like it`s just the flat 1 on 12 that`s shingles now,and is changing to a flat system,I don`t see it marked where he`s putting any shingles---BTW-I hate these fill in proposals-Leave a lot to be desired
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02-22-2008, 11:37 PM
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alright it does look like shingles too,but it says install BLANK shingles WITH blank warranty -WTF
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02-22-2008, 11:38 PM
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You are probably right. I saw the second line that said shingles, but that probably is what is on there now, not what is getting installed.
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02-22-2008, 11:40 PM
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no I edited
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02-22-2008, 11:46 PM
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Posted at the same time. I was referring to your first of the 2 recent posts back to back.
No big deal.
Actually, Yes it is.
That is what I hate about contractors who do not know how to convey simple specifications to a home owner so that they can understand them.
If that is the quality of his diagnosis, what will his attention to details on the job be?
Maybe good and maybe bad? How can you tell?
All I know, is that there is an awful lot of room for misperception here and confusion as to what is specified and agreed upon.
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02-22-2008, 11:47 PM
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where`s he located ??
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02-22-2008, 11:49 PM
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well he shows galvanized valley,2 1 1/2" pipevents,and replace existing box vents(should put ridge vent),and maybe smart vent for air intake
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02-22-2008, 11:55 PM
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just 15# felt though,I don`t see Ice &Water shield ?? If he`s in snow country that`s a problem,(or heavy rains)-have a buddy in Indiana,thought he didn`t need I&W there,until I pointed out the damage on his overhangs,ooh chcked and peeling paint,you know the sun doesn`t bounce off the ground and then do damage to your soffit don`t you??yes that`s water/ice back up damage(rt. in Indiannapolis)
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02-23-2008, 09:50 AM
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No ice shield needed. The main house is 4/12 with an addition across the back that is 1/12, all shingled. I have had no problems in the 8 years that I have had it. There is no way to do any venting on the addition. Here is a pic of the house:
Here is the only pic I have of the addition:
The joint where the addition meets the house is flashed under the shingles as well. Note that the front of the house has 2 layers of shingles (black) and the rear one layer of orange ones.
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