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Frattman 12-22-2012 10:45 AM

pros and cons of shingling over existing roof vs. ripping off first layer
 
Existing asphalt shingles on roof are probably 30 years old on top of T+G - any reason to leave them (besides saving myself the labor), or just tear 'em off and start from scratch?

shazapple 12-22-2012 10:52 AM

The only reason they get left is $$$. If you leave them it is extra weight, you don't know the condition of the deck, and you won't get as smooth of a final product.

bbo 12-22-2012 11:15 AM

shazapple is right. I shied away from any quotes when I got my roof done that wanted to leave existing.

jagans 12-22-2012 12:58 PM

I agree with the others wholeheartedly. Do not leave the existing roof. Reasons:

1. The old roof will inhibit heat flow from the new roof, shortening its life.
2. You wont get a chance to find and fix any bad decking, and re-nail, or screw down decking where nails have backed out.
3. You cannot effectively apply ice dams material in your valleys, rakes and hips.
4. Weight: Why leave dead load that serves no purpose in place?
5. Once you install No. 2, that it. Next time all MUST come off. (Resale)
6. Looks: Recovers often look crappy, especially 3 tabs.

If you need more than all the above, do whatever you want, cause you already have your mind made up, or the roofer you are talking to is a used car salesman.

Gymschu 12-22-2012 01:13 PM

.......and some manufacturers will not honor warranties if you do a roof-over.

joecaption 12-22-2012 02:29 PM

I just flat out refuse to do roof overs. Not worth the money to have to deal with all the complaints about some coming off, how bad it looks.

jagans 12-22-2012 02:54 PM

AMEN Joe AMEN

Poster: Are you sure you only have one roof on this house with a T&G Deck?

You may want to read the post that inquires re roofing over T&G. That should confuse the heck out of you :laughing:

Roofmaster417 12-24-2012 07:38 PM

There are many,many,many,many factors when deciding on a recover.

1.Existing layer count.

2.Manufacture warranties and restrictions.

3.Local codes and requirements.

4.Condition of the roof being recovered.
a.Is the roof leaking ?
b.Are the shingles curled,blistered,deteriorated etc.
c.Is the decking,delaminated,sunken,rotted etc. ?
d.Are there structural damage such as busted rafters,warped rafters,fallen bracing and is the structure capable of holding another layer by region ?
e.Snow load and ice factors.
f.Customers financial status.
g.Your financial status giving you the ability to walk away from a paying job.
h.Possibly one of the more important factors in a recover,,,,Was the workmanship of the previous roofer according to spec ?

i.Replacing any and ALL roof components such as;

1.Step flashing at walls,chimneys,skylights etc.
2.Pipe flashing
3.Ventilation components.
4.Counter flashing at chimneys and walls.
5.Pans and aprons and side skirts for skylights.
6.The length of fasteners being used to recover.

So see,,,there is more to consider than just saying,,,I am not doing it.In my region I have done them and will continue doing them.,.,But only after a few factors are addressed. :thumbsup:

And I can honestly say that my recovers look very clean and nice and I have never had a single issue from the several thousand I have done.I will do them all day long and sleep in peace at night.

I will put the looks of my recovers against the visual of most peoples single layer installations.


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