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Old 10-23-2013, 05:47 PM   #16
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Is the aluminum siding tight to the shingles? If so step replacement without damaging siding is unlikely. If the steps are in good shape I would reuse them.

Roof looks like a 4/12 to me.


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Almost no way to replace step flashing behind that old metal siding.
Try to remove it from the bottom and it's going to get damaged.
Just slide storm and ice under it.
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We try to get folks to just rip it back uniformly because like the guys said, you won't get new under there without damaging the siding.
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Of course the aluminum siding could be R&R damage free and all new flashings could be installed properly but that may take an extra 8 man hours on this project.

God forbid anyone taking a those extra hours to do a so called 30 year roof right.
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Was he quoting comp?

I didnt see any mention of a roof type for these #s. A nice SS metal roof would cost you $24k more if you wanted SS or copper.
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"Of course the aluminum siding could be R&R damage free and all new flashings could be installed properly but that may take an extra 8 man hours on the project.

So I wonder how many roofers would take the time to do that? "

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Zero to none!
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"Of course the aluminum siding could be R&R damage free and all new flashings could be installed properly but that may take an extra 8 man hours on the project.

So I wonder how many roofers would take the time to do that? "

I'll conjecture an answer -
Zero to none!
Sorry, I edited my post you quoted but the point didn't change.
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Roofers aren't siders!
And, siders ain't roofers!

I've seen what roofers can do to siding! -
seen what siders can do to roofing!

Sometimes - not pretty!

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Roofers aren't siders!
And, siders ain't roofers!

I've seen what roofers can do to siding! -
seen what siders can do to roofing!

Sometimes - not pretty!
I agree for the most part but there are many that are well versed in both.

The sad thing is that it's rare that those who are will wear both hats at the same time.
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I agree for the most part but there are many that are well versed in both.

The sad thing is that it's rare that those who are will wear both hats at the same time.
There are not enough well versed in both.
Speaking as someone who had to run around and "pick up the pieces"
after both of those types (roofers - siders) of people.
It's sad!
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"Of course the aluminum siding could be R&R damage free and all new flashings could be installed properly but that may take an extra 8 man hours on the project.

So I wonder how many roofers would take the time to do that? "

I'll conjecture an answer -
Zero to none!
Ide like to meet the crew that could replace all those flashing's, R&R the siding in 8 man hours.
6 Skilled roofers would do that house in 8 hours, reusing the steps. To replace them would easily add an extra half day of work for the whole crew. Aluminum siding is very easily damaged and I would probably end up taking down the whole wall to do it.

The only *quick* option would be to cut the siding and make a flashing, that I could see adding 8man hours to the job.
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Who knows how fast and how good any number of people on any given job could do?!?
Ain't any two jobs the same.
What I know is the "OP" - didn't sign for $35,000!
(Good for him!)
Told him to get more estimates.
I haven't seen/walked/measured the roof -
all conjecture!
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I thought it was vinyl. Where it would be no problem to remove first row of vinyl. I like joe's ideal. Just ice and water for the seal. Forget about new step flashing.
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Of course the aluminum siding could be R&R damage free and all new flashings could be installed properly but that may take an extra 8 man hours on this project.

God forbid anyone taking a those extra hours to do a so called 30 year roof right.


Is there a prize for the right guess.

We do it but we don't remove the siding. We cut it back and create a new trim detail there in lieu of the cut back siding.

It is an option though and certainly has a cost associated with it but I think it would be included in a $35,000 asphalt roof.
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Is there normally flashing where the two lower roofs meet the second floor tucked behind the aluminum siding? Would that need to be replaced? OR is the flashing only around the chimney?
It's aluminum siding.
If it's aluminum or vinyl siding -
we'd probably take the whole gable down -
make sure the "WRB" overlaps the step-flashing -
do the roof - put the siding back up.

Should have better picture(s).


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