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Old 05-28-2013, 09:15 PM   #16
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used the sawsall to get from under the roof. it's the porch roof, not the house roof. I'd rather deal with one issue at a time. Not taking out any of the support structures at this point. When I'm done getting all the top roofing materials off, then Mark, the housing inspector I'm dealing with, will come out and let me know what support structures need to be replaced (and I'm thinking it'll be almost all of it except that closest to the house itself) and give me advice on how to deal with it. He's been very supportive thus far, and actually told me I could do this. Which is why all of this negativity is surprising to me on a DIY site.
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:28 PM   #17
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imo someone without roofing experience shouldnt be roofing. There are some exceptions of course, but they are rare.

Typically all the problems we see on this site are diy bandaids gone wrong. In the long run the cheap way ends up costing more than having it done properly the first time. Your situation is a little different, you dont have the option to pay a pro and could loose the home. That would motivate me to diy also. If your able to handle the porch then your in a much better position to evaluate tackling the main house roof. I think the porch will be your litmus test.

If we can help, pls post pics, no pics generally generates no help...the more details you provide the more help you get.

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Old 05-28-2013, 09:38 PM   #18
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Actually, I agree with you about no experience shouldn't be trying it. I've seen what happens. Which is why I'm getting all the advice and help I can muster up. My arms already want to fall off with working over my head so much. lol However, like you said, in my position, I have not a lot of choice in the matter. If I honestly cannot do the porch roof to the inspector's approval, I'll have to bow under and attempt to find another place to live. That's why I wanted to begin with the porch. Right now, all I really have to do is poke the top from under with my lawn edger and the asphalt and shingles rain down. This is why I am NOT climbing on the thing until we get all the support replaced and the sheathing up. I WILL have help with the sheathing, because there's no way I can put it up alone. I have my stepson and my hubby's ex's new hubby (the house will be stepsons when we die) both taking a day off work to do that bit with me. Anything else I cannot do alone I will have their help. I feel confidant that I can get this done. And, if I run into something, I will put pics up. Tomorrow, when it's light out, I'll have son take a pic of the six layers. lol I just hope to God the actual house roof isn't like that.
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:40 PM   #19
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Boy OP, you really have us going here. You are 50, so that means you took out college loans when you were 30???? OK.

You have PTSD. Cant be from Nam, cause I was there and I am 66, and women were not in combat back then. It does suck though, a car backfires and all of a sudden you are chewing on grass.

And your dad put how many roofs on this house????? I don't understand how your roof is not at ground level by now from a cave-in. What did he use for nails, Gutter Spikes????

This is an incredible story, to say the least.

Ceteris paribus, I think your son and his friends are still your best bet here. Most young guys are pretty good at demolition.

Better be ready for anything up there though, Bees love to nest in old shake roofs, along with roaches, black snakes, and you name it. Get wasp spray, ripper shovels, chain saws, sledge hammers, Composition C-4, and grandpas old 12 bore loaded with rock salt.

The 12 bore is for any of the young-ins that try to skedaddle.
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:57 PM   #20
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Not my dad, hubby's dad. I refuse to own the relationship. man was a menace. I took the loan out long after college, to pay back what I couldn't. It was in default by then. PTSD isn't only from war, but from trauma. I had a difficult childhood, to put it mildly. I have issues with things other than backfiring cars. You were in Nam? I thank you, then. I have only the utmost respect for those who served.

Hm. The nails Big John used on the roof. About two inches long, with heads the size of dimes? It's a good thing the roof has rotted, or I'd need a crowbar to get them out. And yes, I'm surprised the roof hasn't caved from the weight. lol He once asked me to lance a boil on his balls because he was too cheap to go see a doc. I said no, of course... pretty colorfully for my usual vocabulary.

My boy is scared to death of heights. He's helping with what he can from ground level, though. And his friends are all chubby females who wouldn't know which side of a hammer to use. He stopped smoking pot a year ago, and most of his guy friends disappeared quickly. Now, if I can just get the females to stop swarming him, I'd feel better.

Already ran into a few spiders, and a nest of mice up there, but nothing worse than that. Not much spooks me in that category. There are bats living in the back porch, and I just grab whatever one gets in the house with the shop vac. Snakes? I'll give it to daughter. She likes em. Has two in her house as pets. Besides, they like it much better by my pond. Plenty of rock to hide in there.

Actually, I'm going to the bar on Friday to do the karaoke thing. I'm putting out a plea to the regulars to come out and help on Saturday afternoon (after the hangovers are lessened). Might work. lol
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You really do find out who your friends are when its time to move or re-roof.
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You really do find out who your friends are when its time to move or re-roof.

Never has a more truthful statement been made.
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:58 PM   #23
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Well, any women who sucks up bats with a shop vac has my vote, so give-er-hell, Shadow. If this guy Mark thinks you can do it, who are we to say you cant. Buy a couple of big tarps, in case you get caught.

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Can you please post pictures of the house and roof? This will better help us to help you.

Welcome to the site, btw.
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Old 06-01-2013, 08:54 PM   #26
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She's probably too tired to bother with a computer. I hope it isn't as hot where she is as it is here. I was out on a couple of commercial roofs doing IR scans last week and it was in the mid 80's after sunset, and humid as heck. I feel sorry for her.
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One weight saving idea would be a metal roof well insulated attic space and you won't even need sheeting I know that's what my uncle did on his roof when he build his house a few years ago.
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I was out on a couple of commercial roofs doing IR scans last week and it was in the mid 80's after sunset, and humid as heck.
That's how it is here, at ground level, at midnight.
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