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Old 11-08-2013, 09:18 AM   #1
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Hi Folks,

I'm a DIYer buiding a 10'x10' shed. I'm ready for siding and have a question before I begin this weekend. The vinyl siding I have comes in 12' lengths and my building is roughly 10' wide. I'm wondering if I should complete that 10' section with one single piece cut to size or 2. I figured two would make it easier for fitting the edges properly and may come up with less waste. At the same time, with one piece I've got one cut and no overlaps. Any thoughts recommendations?

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Hi Folks,

I'm a DIYer buiding a 10'x10' shed. I'm ready for siding and have a question before I begin this weekend. The vinyl siding I have comes in 12' lengths and my building is roughly 10' wide. I'm wondering if I should complete that 10' section with one single piece cut to size or 2. I figured two would make it easier for fitting the edges properly and may come up with less waste. At the same time, with one piece I've got one cut and no overlaps. Any thoughts recommendations?

Thanks,
Matt
Anytime you can run siding with one piece (no seams) it looks better and keeps wind/water out. Give the fact it's a shed, it's probably not as big of a concern that you have seems, but I'd run full pieces if it were me. Just make sure you give a little wiggle room on each end. In other words, don't make the pieces fit really tightly in the jchannel or corners. Vinyl is pretty easy to bend into place if you're only using one piece.

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I agree, use full length pieces, it's going to take two people to install it.
I'd start on the side where the door is first in most cases so you'll know what short pieces you'll have left over.
A picture of the shed might help to explain what to do and how to reuse the short pieces where you have to work around a door or windows.
Any time shorter pieces do get used for some reason it's best to use them on the back side.
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I agree, use full length pieces, it's going to take two people to install it.
I'd start on the side where the door is first in most cases so you'll know what short pieces you'll have left over.
A picture of the shed might help to explain what to do and how to reuse the short pieces where you have to work around a door or windows.
Any time shorter pieces do get used for some reason it's best to use them on the back side.
Thanks for the replies so far. Here are a couple of pictures of the shed. I've got a 36" door centered on one wall and a 24"x36" window off my first stud. So roughly 16" from the side wall. The door is hard to see due to the glare in one photo so I added two.

By the way this will be my first experience with vinyl siding, so any general advice is appreciated as well in terms of installation tricks for keeping things level.
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For level, just snap a chalk line (or use a string line) to install your starter strip along the bottom. You probably could use a 4ft level on a shed that size. Make sure you install your corners and j channel first around windows, doors, gables, etc. Run siding up. The biggest and most obvious thing with vinyl, in addition to starting off level, is to make sure you don't nail the vinyl tightly to the sheathing. It will allow for expansion and contraction if you leave the nail with a little wiggle room (1/8" or so).
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Also need a piece of Z moulding above the door to act as a drip cap.
Someone messed up and did not install the sheathing at least 1" below the slab, so make sure at least the starter strip is installed so the bottom of it is below it.
If not air, water and insects can get in.
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Also need a piece of Z moulding above the door to act as a drip cap.
Someone messed up and did not install the sheathing at least 1" below the slab, so make sure at least the starter strip is installed so the bottom of it is below it.
If not air, water and insects can get in.
I've got the drip cap for the door and window. So for the sheathing, someone (me installed the sheathing above the slap by about 1/2". My thought was that should not be sitting on the slap directly. The slab wasn't exactly square so my sill plate is inset in some places. I do of the sill plate on top of the pink sill sealer and the sheathing is nailed into the plate. Sounds like this still might not be enough for bugs. What would have been the proper procedure?
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Bottom plates set even with the outside edges of the slab and the sheathing runs past the slab.
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Bottom plates set even with the outside edges of the slab and the sheathing runs past the slab.
I see. Well shoot, I didn't do that. So at this point you think the best strategy is to start the vinyl as low as possible?
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Set it so the area where it locks into the siding in below the slab.
How flat is that slab?
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See where that flat area starts, use that as your guide.

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